Re: Making money from Java

"Judson McClendon" <judmc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Humans do not get into Heaven by being good, they get into Heaven in one
> and only one way, by receiving salvation by the grace of God, through
> faith in Jesus Christ, who is the Son of God, and Who died a
> substitutionary death to pay the penalty for our sins.

If their works don't *demonstrate* their faith, however great the faith
might be, that's open to discussion.

> By definition, all Christians believe this, or they are not Christians.

All Christians believe that, if your behavior doesn't match your
proclamations, you are nonetheless "saved"?

> Fortunately, as much as I disagree with some Catholic doctrines, I believe
> the doctrine of the Roman Catholic Church is entirely in agreement with
> that statement. Being right or wrong on lesser matters of doctrine may
> beneficial or detrimental, but that one doctrine is an absolute essential.

The terms "sola fide", "sola gratia" and "sola scriptura" (faith alone,
grace alone, scripture alone) are specifically characteristic of the
Reformation, in particular identified with Luther, in direct opposition to
the doctrines of the Roman Catholic Church. I don't believe this changed
with the Counter-Reformation.

Since you insist that *all* Christians believe at least the first of these
(and probably the first two), you directly *exclude* Roman Catholics from
your definition of "all Christians" (along with anyone else who doesn't
accept Luther's principles) despite your protestations to the contrary.

-Chuck Stevens


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