Re: Making money from Java
- From: "Chuck Stevens" <charles.stevens@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 08:59:36 -0800
"Judson McClendon" <judmc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> "Richard" <riplin@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> Each religious group has its own different belief system. Judson makes
>> the mistake of believing that 'all true christians' are exactly like
>> himself, but that is probably because he avoids anything that does not
>> support his views.
>
> Where do you get these obsurdities, Richard? I never said that "all true
> Christians" believe as I do. I have never had such a thought. There are
> certain things which are very commonly held among Christians, but there
> are also wide diversities of opinion on other issues. I have never said or
> thought anything else.
I seem to recall a message in which you wrote that Roman Catholics agree
with you on the issues of "faith alone" and "grace alone", which are
prerequisite premises to being correctly called Christian.
All the evidence at hand leads me to believe "sola fide" and "sola gratia"
are specifically Reformation positions, and stem directly from Luther, and
are rejected by the Roman Catholic church.
Thus, as I read your premise: (1) All Christians must believe in salvation
by faith alone through grace alone. (2) Roman Catholicism teaches that
salvation is by faith alone through grace alone. Therefore (3) Roman
Catholic doctrine is a Christian doctrine.
Whether (1) is true or not, (2) is definitely false.
And if (1) is factually true then no Roman Catholic (or for that matter
Eastern Orthodox) group has the right to call itself Christian, by your
rules. Is that sort of arrogance appropriate behavior for a Christian?
Does God really play "Simon says ..."?
-Chuck Stevens
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