Re: religion



"Peter Lacey" <lacey@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Richard wrote:
>>
>> > Preposterous? No more so than the idea of a super hero taking clay and
>> > breathing "life" into it...
>>
>> And certainly no more so than said superhero spontaneously popping into
>> existence from nothing.
>>
>> As superhero is complex then creationists would require it to have an
>> 'intelligent designer', a supersuperhero, and this would have to have
>> spontaneously popped into existence from nothing in order to be around
>> to create superhero. No, wait ....
>
> Doesn't matter whether you believe in God or not. Or the spaghetti
> monster. Sooner or later, as you probe backwards in time with your
> thoughts, you'll arrive at the realization that there must have been a
> first "something" which was "always" there.

Not necessarily, Peter. I am persuaded by the Big Bang theory and have done
much reading and given it considerable thought.

If time began as the space expanded, then what existed before the beginning
of time is meaningless.

If it came from a point singularity, then the existence of that point
started when time started.

If it came from a quantum field fluctuation in multi-dimensional hyperspace,
then that fluctuation occurred at the moment time began.

Certainly, as I "probe backward in time with MY thoughts" I do NOT come to
"the realization that there must have been a
first "something" which was "always" there."

If all the energy (matter) in the universe is considered, it comes to zero.
(That is why antimatter annihilates matter). Everything came from nothing.
The imbalances that may have led to the creation of our universe have more
to do with virtuality than with reality.

I also believe that within the next 20 years this whole process will be much
better understood than it is presently.

Neither Time, God, nor any other dimension were relevant BEFORE the first
event.

Pete.



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