Re: OT: Agnoticism (WAS: Making money from Java)

I forgot one thing. They said that light waves traveling in a vacuum have
similar properties to sound waves traveling through a liquid, so space may
liquid like.

"charles hottel" <jghottel@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Well I have heard of the this concept but I do not pretend to understand
> it. At one time it was thought that space was filled with and "ether" but
> I thought that was disproved. Is this the new ether? When I hear the word
> "virtual" I tend to think 'simulation' i.e. using one resource to simulate
> another. Maybe the universe is a humongous holodeck after all.
>
> I was reading Scientific American at the doctors office today and they
> said these virtual particles appear in pairs. They think it is possible
> for them to pop into existence near the event horizon of a black hole such
> that one is sucked into the black whole and the other escapes. They called
> it the Hawking effect and said if it happened often enough that the black
> hole could evaporate. A lot of this is very hard to visualize and
> understand just from words. I am sure if a person can understand the
> mathematics that it is more precise but very hard to put into language. I
> do not understand how the universe has no center and no edges even in the
> past when it was much smaller. Also it is expanding but it is not into
> anything else. I hope when I retire I can read more about this stuff.
>
> "Pete Dashwood" <dashwood@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:413attF1cpb5dU3@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>
> <snip>
>
>> The secret is that there is something else besides the observable reality
>> (it is called virtuality) and at a certain threshold (called the Planck
>> length and represented by a small "h" with a bar over it - "h bar"),
>> things cross from reality to virtuality and vice versa, depending on
>> random fluctuations at a quantum level. In effect, particles and energy
>> (the same thing, really) pop in and out of "existence" all the time
>> without us being aware of it. I certainly believe that everything is
>> connected, because at one time the entire known universe was contained in
>> an unimaginably tiny space (and some people might call this the palm of
>> "God"s hand...).
>>
>> But I also believe the universe is primarily a "star factory" and we are
>> here simply by accident (in an almost infinite universe the most unlikely
>> events will happen) with about as much relevance as a tiny patch of mould
>> on the wallpaper near the floor, in the farthest corner of the Albert
>> Hall. It is only our own arrogance that leads us to believe the whole
>> Cosmos was "created" for our benefit. The universe daily goes about its
>> business with no concept of "good" or "evil" or "fair" or "unfair", or
>> any other Man-created concept; just random fluctuations in fields which
>> are obeying the laws of Physics (which we don't quite fully understand
>> yet, but are working on and making progress...)
>>
>> I understand and respect your faith, even though I don't share it. My own
>> faith is of a different nature. Whatever works for people is good.
>>
>> Tolerance and goodwill are the two things that can bridge the gaps.
>>
>> Pete.
>>
>>
>>
>
>


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