Re: Web Services & Web Apps - Was: Accessing desktop COM components from Java


"andrewmcdonagh" <andrewmcdonagh@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Jun 22, 1:14 am, "Pete Dashwood"
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"andrewmcdonagh" <andrewmcdon...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message

news:1182463212.534723.242990@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> > On Jun
4, 2:40 pm, "Pete Dashwood"
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Andrew, it isn't about accessing web services in Java. I agree that's
fairly
straightforward. The whole point is to enable COM components in Java.
The
SOAP thing is just ONE spin-off, and an arguably "unnecessary" one.
I've
been too busy with other things to pursue this, but I will when I get
time.

Pete.

Oh ok ...I understand.

Regards

Andrew
PS: Been ages since I last visited....how's the OO C# going?

Brilliant! Best thing I ever did. Whole new world... online video
tutorials,
help that actually helps, Intellisense in the IDE (blows me away every
day I
use it :-)) and a straightforward, consistent syntax. I am totally sold
on
DotNET/Mono and the FCL.

For Web Development (I am currently udertaking a major one to support my
Address Validation Service engine, which is around 4000 lines of OO COBOL
and has integrated seamlessly and (almost :-)) effortlessly with C#
through
the Framework Class Library Interop services), I love the autowired event
processing and pre-compiled code-behind pages so that everything runs
securely on the server. I've been looking at AJAX and may use this for
the
next project. It certainly seems like a good way to organise and control
client side code.

A very happy bunny :-)!

Pete.

Sounds like you are having fun!

The more proficient you get with C# & Java, the more you'll need to
start using their respective Unit testing frameworks (nUnit & JUnit)
as these are starting to become widespread requirements for developer
skill sets (and as a Software Mgr let me tell you - its difficult to
find those with good Unit testing skills!)

Also, two tools I'd recommend for Testing these Web Services and Web
Applications...

1) soapUI - http://www.soapui.org/

great for Web services - its free - give it a WSDL it'll auto generate
the HTTP request for you to fill in any parameters, so this allows you
to connect to a real WS and test it. The tests can even be saved and
played back -giving you an automated system testing framework.


2) Selenium - http://www.openqa.org/selenium/

Another great free too for Web application testing. It drives
browsers (IE, Netscape, Firefox, etc) directly and so allows you to
very easily script automated tests for your web app.

Have fun!

Andrew

Thanks Andrew.

For testing my web service locally I can use the generated form that MS
provide when the WSDL is generated. (This is automatic from VS 2005.) Like
the product you describe above, it also allows auto generation of parameters
based on the WSDL. However, my WS sees a single parameter (InterfaceBlock)
which actually needs to have various fields within it set, and this is not
so easy.(it is a large block (8192 bytes) and some of the fields that must
be set are single byte flags...)

For testing remotely I knocked up a C# app. in minutes (based on something
someone else showed me; I wasn't experienced in it at the time, but now I do
it as a matter of course :-)), using the Web Application template in VS2005.
As the interface to my WS is fairly complex, this was a good approach (I
could include my InterfaceBlockBuilder Class to set fields in the interface
block, which, being originally in COBOL, is fixed length fields).

So, I'm pretty much covered for testing the WS.

The Selenium tool sounds interesting and I'll certainly have a look at that.
Thanks.

(So much to do... so little time :-))

Pete.


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