Re: field validation (was Re: COBOL/DB2 Date edit question)

On Aug 16, 5:01 am, "Pete Dashwood"
<dashw...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I don't think people who don't build web sites realise how REALLY hard it is
to make everything work across Browsers.

It is really easy to do so, just follow the standards that are set by
W3. Oh, wait, then IE fails.

Of course if you try to use all the Windows specific cruft that can be
exploited by spyware and such then, yes, it is really hard.

The "experience" on IE7 was a dream; on IE6, it was the occasional snore,
IE5 it was more like restless sleep, and on Firefox it was a nightmare :-).

That is most likely because you were using IEisms and Windowsisms,
just like a good Microsoftee should.

Now, if someone was paying me to develop this site I simply couldn't spend
that amount of time on the "Cross Browser" problem.. Server stats showed
that for the brief time I let people access it, 93% were using IE. (Previous
sites I've done have reported over 85%).

That depends on what you are measuring, it may be because anyone using
another browser sees the first page as crap and wanders off without
making a couple of dozen hits.

So, the bottom line is, Howard, that complaints about problems in other
Browsers are just relegated to the bottom of the heap, unless they are
really drastic; things like windows not floating properly, animations not
activating, sound files refusing, video timing out, are all not going to get
fixed because it just isn't economic.

I have Firefox with add-ons that block flash, kill animations, refuse
sound, block pop-ups and advertising sites, and won't run scripts
(unless I specifically allow). Naturally Active-X is completely out.

You may design sites that look like flash adverts on TV, but I won't
watch those. Animations and flash are distracting, 'arty' backgrounds
and colours can make sites unreadable.

I also have an addon 'Web Developer', with one click I can turn off
'all styles' and get the information content as black text on white
background that I can read comfortably.

In three days I could add new, revenue
generating, functionality that at least 85% of the traffic can enjoy without
problem... the people who would be paying me want maximum bang for their
buck.

You say 'revenue generating'. That usually means adverts flashing at
me. Am I supposed to 'enjoy' those ?

Some sites are made like the DVDs that won't skip the trailers, or TV
recorders that won't skip over adverts. Just don't go there/buy them,
or get a browser/player that bypasses the crap.


I am using software and platforms that cost serious money and it STILL isn't
easy to get Cross Browser compatibility. Between Visual Studio and
Dreamweaver it is possible to emulate every type of Browser and screen size.
I've done it. It makes no difference. Looks fine in emulation, look at it
with the real thing, and it isn't...

That may be deliberate, especially the 'Visual Studio'.

So now I'm only guaranteeing support for IE...

If it is advertising, pop-ups, flash, animations, sound then that is
excellent, please ensure that _nothing_ shows for Firefox.


.

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