Re: Basement tinkerers and inventors



"Robert" <no@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Sat, 1 Sep 2007 12:47:41 +1200, "Pete Dashwood"
<dashwood@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

The people who are REALLY into PC development are moving away from COBOL
because there are much better options available now for PC development.

Prgramming is programming. The operating system doesn't change the rules
of logic, Boolean
algebra nor good design. You are referring to a cultural change, not so
much a technical
change.

Did I say it was technical... :-)?

In fact, I see it as a complete paradigm shift involving technical,
cultural, and economic change.

If you're working daily in a world of Linux and Ruby or PHP or C# and
Windows, you really only have a passing interest in COBOL. (or none at
all...)

I worked in shop where we did all Cobol development and testing on
Windows, then deployed
on Linux without ever testing there. We could as well have deployed on
mainframe. Java
people are comfortable with the concept.

Is that shop still running?

Most people here have never seen or used an Object Browser,

The Web Express workbench has one.

have no idea how
to leverage components that are already present on their PCs into their
own
applications

Web Express makes it easy to use OLE objects.

, wouldn't know what scripting is or why you might want to use
it (yet they are expert at Sanskrit JCL:-)), and are not inclined to learn
Object Orientation (which is the basis for PC development).

OO is not the basis for PC development, it's the basis for modern
programming.

Yes it is, but you are wrong to say that that makes it "not the basis for PC
development". Perhaps your statement requires an "only" inserted after not?


Unix people
are as much into OO as PC people.

As far as I am concerned, Unix people ARE PC people. I use "Personal
Computer" pretty loosely. I klnow Unix is running on mainframes.

Because it wasn't invented in 1974, mainframers adopt a
wait and see attitude. They hope this too will pass.

They simply aren't PC developers.

They simply aren't Real Programmers.

Maybe.:-) The term "programmer" is taking on new meanings.

Pete.
--
"I used to write COBOL...now I can do anything."




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