Re: [OT] Iraq
- From: LX-i <lxi0007@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 15:50:38 -0600
Charles Hottel wrote:
I am tired of wars. I am tired of our leaders coming to us and saying "here is why we have to go to war, and here is why it is righteous, and will be different this time from all those other times when it didn't work out". I see war as a lose-lose proposition. No side wins, they may lose less, but they still lose and government reframes it as winning because they need people to support the next war, and the next.... Without knowing what the dead could have accomplished it is impossible to really know what was lost. How many potentially great contributors have been lost to war? Why can't nations stop acting like little children and act more like adults? Why can't we talk to each other and be as aggressive at preventing war as we are at fighting wars?
It takes 2 (or more) to make that work. We can be as diplomatic as we'd like, but if the other side genuinely wants to kill as many of us as possible, no negotiation is possible. War is then borne out of survival.
Maybe we have to fight for things like freedom.
That is the crux of my argument in the thread you joined, that seems to be misunderstood by other participants.
Thou shall not kill. Some say that is a mistranslation and should be thou shall not murder. I wouldn't like to bet my soul on it.
KJV - "Thou shalt not kill."
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus%2020:13;&version=9;
NASB - "You shall not murder."
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus%2020:13;&version=49;
NIV - "You shall not murder."
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus%2020:13;&version=31;
NKJV - "You shall not murder."
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus%2020:13;&version=50;
CEV - "Do not murder."
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus%2020:13;&version=46;
HCSB - "Do not murder."
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus%2020:13;&version=77;
It's a pretty safe bet. I've heard a couple of people who know Hebrew and Aramaic give that interpretation as well.
Life is precious and we should not be so willing to waste it. Perhaps I am prejudiced because of recent events in my life. I hope I can live my life without ever having to kill another person.
I agree. I know this subject is one that has personally affected you in a strong way over the past year.
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