Re: OT:Thanksgiving

On 29 Nov, 15:20, "Judson McClendon" <ju...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

(The primary reason for the U.S. Civil War was to reverse this, not to free slaves, as is commonly thought. Freeing slaves was the
tentative excuse, but not the reason. For example, shortly before the Civil War, the southern states submitted a bill to free the
slaves peacefully over a few years, but the northern states voted it down. If the intent had been just to abolish slavery, that
would have been the time to do it, and avoid war. Forcing the southern states to give up slavery overnight would have destroyed the
economy. Only an idiot would have thought that a good idea, because the slaves would have been starving along with everyone else in
the South. Yet that was what the southern states were presented with, or secession.)

This caused me to spend all of at least 5 minutes on Wikipedia looking
for the reason why the war happened. Certainly amendments were
proposed and rejected but which one do you refer to when yoiu say "the
southern states submitted a bill to free the slaves peacefully over a
few years, but the northern states voted it down".
I only ask because the last proposal, the "Crittenden Compromise",
does not appear to be a proposition to abolish slavery in a phased
manner but rather an attempt to perpetuate it.
.

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