Re: OT:Thanksgiving



"Alistair" <alistair@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On 9 Dec, 14:38, "Judson McClendon" <ju...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"tlmfru" <la...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Doug Miller <spamb...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
You can *infer* temperature from those things, but you can't *measure*
it. And
the global-warming Chicken Littles would have us make massive changes
in every
facet of life on the basis of an inference. I'd rather have actual
measurements, thank you very much.

It's very often the case that people who use name-calling as part of
their
argument aren't very sure of themselves.

Thanks. I was wondering why Alistair has been bombarding me with such
inflammatory name-calling, and now I know. I only suspected before. :-)
--

I am sure of myself and , when TIMFRU invents a time machine, he can
go back in time to take the measurements for himself and prove the GW
brigade wrong. I won't hold my breath.

Judson, I realise that my belief in GW is as strong as your scepticism
but is founded in observable fact and not in ignorance or scepticism.
I do not think it is too late to save the world but I do think that,
without support from the entire population of the world, I will be
able to sunbath outside my flat in 2050 on christmas day with the
waves lapping around my feet on the beach (currently 200 feet above
sea level).

I believe that to be extremely unlikely. (Even if you last until 2050, you
will be so busy having your poultice changed, you won't notice where the sea
level has risen to...:-))

Enlisting the support of the entire world for something that is still very
arguable (witness the argument that has been raging here...) is probably
going to be "difficult", so why not try for something smaller and more
practical...?

Maybe you could start by persuading your "friend" not to chiuck his garbage
over the fence...?

It's the little things that eventually make a real difference...


As for name calling? Calling you a worshipper of a minor Midianite
storm god is an accurate observation. Look up where Yahweh came from
on Wikipedia for yourself and you will see what I am getting at.

Is substituting Wikipedia as your "Argument from Authority" any better than
Judson using the Holy Bible as his?

How is Judson's (or your own) views on Religion pertinent to an argument
about GW?

Fact is, you HAVE been using ad hominem, old fruit, and it doesn't help your
case. Trying to push someone's buttons MIGHT be considered legitimate in
rhetoric, but not in reasoned argument (if you are serious about your
position) and it can only work as long as doing so does not expose buttons
of your own... The more you beat this particular drum (and Judson fails to
respond in kind) the worse your argument looks. It becomes apparent that the
person REALLY obsessed about this Religion thing is not him, but you...

My advice: let it go and focus on your real arguments for GW. (If you really
are serious and passionate about it; if you're not, and this is just a ploy
to fill time in a boring life, then fine, blaze away... :-))

By
the way, It was a novel by James Branch Cabell that appraised me of
that one.

It is wise not to base your beliefs on fiction, even though fiction can
often stimulate serious thought... :-)

Pete.
--
"I used to write COBOL...now I can do anything."



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