Re: OT: Vista

On Dec 22, 5:18 pm, Robert <n...@xxxxxx> wrote:
On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 14:16:38 -0800 (PST), Richard <rip...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Dec 22, 10:15 am, Howard Brazee <how...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 13:07:44 -0800 (PST), Richard

<rip...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
In my son's case, he has 4GB RAM, and (he says) the fastest Intel dual
core CPU available at the moment, and a super fast graphics card (he's
into gaming). He just got it this week. Why a machine like that would be
sluggish beats me.

If it is not running 64bit Windows then the 4Gb is wasted, much of it
won't be addressed.

If it is 64bit you may find there are more compatibility problems than
with 32bit Vista.

Of course, with 4G and a dual core CPU or better, OS-X runs just fine.

On my cheap 4 year old laptop with an indifferent Celeron (1.4 I
think), a half Gig RAM and an integrated video Ubuntu 7.10 runs great
with wobbly windows and other effects which _don't_ slow the system
down. And it found and used all the hardware straight out of the box
including a WiFi card.

Microsoft's customers are _not_ you and I, they are HP, Dell and PC
shops.

You got that right.

To keep these customers happy it is necessary to 'encourage'
end-users into buying more and more hardware and increasing the
revenue. Besides this makes the amount sent back to MS seem only a
smaller percentage of total system revenue.

Memory is cheap. So what if it takes two gigabytes? The system still sells for $400.

To follow the curve of PC price trends they should be $US200 - $US300
with laptops being maybe $US400. MS want more than this for their
software so they add cruft until the required system is 2x or 3x or
morex the MS revenue.

Nah. Microsoft charges heavy hitters like Dell about $50 per copy.

For Vista Home Basic, yes. Make it Ultimate plus Office and it is
getting towards half the $400.


Put the latest Ubuntu on your 5 year old system that will otherwise
wind up polluting the landfill and you will likely be faster than a
Vista system, and still do what most users want from a computer
(internet, email, chat, facebook, a few bits of typing).

Last month I paid $100 for an HP Pavilion that someone actually rescued from a landfill.
It's about 8 years old, weighs 20 pounds and emits a terrible noise from its power supply
fan.

So, why did you pay $100 ?

I equipped it with Ubuntu. It doesn't run any faster than it did under W2K.

How and what did you measure 'under W2K' ? Anyway W2K was fine for
speed (except Games because the video drivers weren't in kernel). You
may note that I said 'Vista'.

Plus, one
of its cards is of the soft Windows persuasion. None of the Linux drivers knows how to
make it work.

If it is a 'soft-Modem' then there are Linux drivers for some, but not
all. My laptop has a WinModem and Ubuntu made it work fine, but who
uses dial-up these days.

Anyway how did you determine that the card worked at all ? It may be
broken and the reason that the box was dumped.

For games, get a Wii and get off the couch.

What's a Wii?

Do try and keep up. It's a Nintendo. The controller is a hand-held
device that works in 3 dimensions. To play tennis or bowling or sword
fighting you use the controller like you would a real racquet, bowl,
or sword.


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