Re: The Art of Project Management



<docdwarf@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:fl0go0$nq6$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
In article <mqf7n31pktfs95tove24e298eoufh8ommu@xxxxxxx>,
Howard Brazee <howard@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 14:25:58 +0000 (UTC), docdwarf@xxxxxxxxx () wrote:

I'm not sure what you're calling 'process rubbish' here, Mr Berkun... but
I've worked on few sites where programmers have told me that
telecommuting
was discussed and turned down because the managers decided that without
being able to count nostrils and recta they would not be able to tell if
the work was actually getting done.

Nobody - at least nobody whose view held sway during the considerations
of telecommuting - appears to have said 'How about... 'we know the work
is
getting done by the reaching of goals and milestones, just the way we do
now but without actual bodies around.'

But I've also worked where telecommuting was allowed, with such
criteria used.

This, perhaps, might assist Mr Berkun in describing 'process rubbish'...
or it might not; his response has yet to be seen.

Given that Mr. Berkun is not a contributor to this thread and what has been
quoted here is simply selective extracts from his book, chosen by Robert,
it may be some time before there is a response from him...

I see no practical point in discussing his opinions unless he is present and
able to defend or explain them. To do less simply means a discussion on
other people's opinions of what he wrote; a bit like priests discussing Holy
Writ, and exactly as useful...

A productive discussion would be based on the opinions of those discussing,
without requiring comment from someone not involved in the discussion.

But it has been some time since there was a productive discussion in CLC...
:-)

Pete.
--
"I used to write COBOL... now I can do anything."


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  • Re: The Art of Project Management
    ... Pete Dashwood wrote: ... But I've also worked where telecommuting was allowed, ... it may be some time before there is a response from him... ... not sure what you're calling 'process rubbish' here, ...
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