Re: Interesting take on Paradigms (OO vs Procedural)



A challenge to this point of view - not disputing the real world fact to
which it applies!

What percentage of the people that have so "voted", Pete, are actually
qualified? I.e., what percentage of them have complete familiarity with
BOTH procedural and OO concepts? You have, as do other people that comment
in this group; therefore your and their opinions must be taken seriously.
But judging by comments about the putative behaviour of Java and other
programmers should they be required to soil themselves with Cobol - they are
acting strictly from their own prejudices, not in any reasoned manner.
After all, most of them have as their first language Java or C++. All of us
are canalized to a certain extent by what we learn first; so this is not
suprising. But it isn't and should not be taken to be a rational thing.
(Remember the "arguments" for using goto-less programs - and I don't want to
start a debate on that: "GOTO's suck". "Don't use GOTO's - ever". QED.
Such a standard of debate would be sneered off the planet if rationality
were to rule). Put another way: how far would you trust the conclusions of
a hardware consultant who states that the only thing he's familiar with is
Solaris? So why should one accept the opinion of somebody whose ONLY
experience is in Java?

PL

Pete Dashwood <dashwood@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Very interesting post, Richard. I didn't know the terms came from
Simulation. I liked your examples.

I think the whole debate over OO is pointless. The world has voted with
its
feet. Trying to pretend there is nothing different or advantageous in
using
OO, over standard COBOL, is like trying to pretend that a car is really
just
a horse...

That is not to say there are not some things for which a horse is better
suited than a car, but saying that, in no way diminishes cars...or horses
:-)

Pete.
--
"I used to write COBOL...now I can do anything."




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