Re: Microsoft Outlook Web Access
- From: "Charles Hottel" <chottel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 10:57:39 -0400
"Pete Dashwood" <dashwood@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:6k5t5sF68prhU1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
"Charles Hottel" <chottel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:FLadnWjGKZ_-LUDVnZ2dnUVZ_tPinZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
I thought Microsoft hired only 'the best' programmers. You always hear
of the hard questions that they ask job applicants.
OO programming and .NET are supposed to be the cat's meow, just ask Pete
Dashwood.
I meant this only as light humor which obviously failed and struck a nerve.
I may soon dicover how I like C# for myself. Components in Java seem more
awkward than what you have shown us with C# and I want to get some
experience with them. It appears I will never get to use Java at work. The
projects using it are way behind schedule and I will most likely be retired
before my system is done.
I take no responsibility for MS (or anybody else's) programming. OO is a
great paradigm that allows systems to be built from components and .NET,
in my experience is a level playing field. I think that's all I've ever
claimed, Charlie.
Please don't vent your frustration and petulance on me; how you deal with
your computer is not my problem.
I was directing it Microsoft and not at you. I am not really questioning
the tools. I am just saying that even the best tools can be used poorly. I
guess that is obvious. It is just frustrating when they are used so badly
and so inconsistently.
So what did the best programmers with the best tools produce? Let's see.
The inbox and other directories have a number in parentheses next to them
indicating the number of unread emails. If you delete an email without
reading it, the number is not decremented. If you delete them all it
still is not decremented.
Funny, it is when I do it. I'm running Outlook with Office 2003. NOT
Outlook Express, the full version.
That is what I use at home and I do not have any of the problems I
mentioned, with it, only with the Web Access version that I use at work.
At work I have no choice over what software is installed.
Sometimes when you delete an email it gives a error message (I have seen
two different ones) that idicates it cannot delete the email. After a
while the email disappears, i.e. is deleted an is sent to the Deleted
Items.
Perhaps a background task was blocking access or your CPU was doing other
stuff. Next time, try checking Task Manager.
When you right click on the Deleted Items directory and select delete
all, sometimes it says it can't delete them, but you can select them and
delete them one at a time.
I have never had occasion to delete the deleted items directory entries,
letting Outlook do it automatically at the close of session. I DO delete
the junk mail entries after having a quick look to make sure there are
none form people I want to communicate with (there seldom are...) and I do
it by pressing Ctrl/A to select everything in the directory, and then
Delete. It has never failed to work.
When I delete an email from the Inbox it goes into Deleted Items. Later on
I want to clear out that folder. Sometimes it does it, sometimes it fails
but I can delete them one at a time. It does not clear out the folder
automatically when I exit the program. Perhaps this is an option I can set,
but I prefer to do it manually in case there are items I am still unsure
about removing permanently.
For reasons best not gone into, I receive a lot of emails that I need to
delete. For example I went to lunch with an empty inbox and when I
returned I had 35 emails to delete. I thought I could select a range and
then right click and delete them all with a single click. Silly me. When
I held down the Shift key and clicked on the end of the range, what did
appear to my wondering eyes, but 35 open windows, one for each email.
What progress as I now had to close 35 windows plus delete 35 emails. I
would have preferred seeing eight reindeer with jolly ols Saint Nick.
This is documented behaviour and allows people to open multiple mails
simultaneously. Perhaps you need to take another look at using Outlook,
or, if you don't like that idea, avail yourself of one of the many
excellent third party mail readers which are available. I can recommend
Eudora... used it for years. However, I do like Outlook better.
Again I have no choice about using this software. No training was offerred
on it. Perhaps I can use Help to figure out how to do what I want.
My real complaint here is that my past experience with Window Explorer and
MS Outlook 2003, does not carry over to this Web Access Outlook. The same
procedure of mouse click and key strokes work consistently in Explorer and
Outlook 2003 and I believe in most if not all Windows programs, but they
produce different results in the Web Access Outllook. I believe this violate
the 'spirit' of Windows programming. I felt the same way in the past when
we used Lotus Notes which also responded differently from WIndows programs I
was used to. I guess programmers always feel they have a better way and I
can undestand that, but as a user I prefer more consistency.
Conclusion: Bad or sloppy programming easily overcomes good tools. The
OO paradigm is no silver bullet. MS Outlook Web access sucks.
That is certainly one set of possible conclusions.
Pete.
--
"I used to write COBOL...now I can do anything."
.
- Follow-Ups:
- Re: Microsoft Outlook Web Access
- From: James J. Gavan
- Re: Microsoft Outlook Web Access
- References:
- OT: Microsoft Outlook Web Access
- From: Charles Hottel
- Re: Microsoft Outlook Web Access
- From: Pete Dashwood
- OT: Microsoft Outlook Web Access
- Prev by Date: Re: Kiwiland
- Next by Date: Re: Kiwiland
- Previous by thread: Re: Microsoft Outlook Web Access
- Next by thread: Re: Microsoft Outlook Web Access
- Index(es):
Relevant Pages
|
