Re: Ping: Robert

docdwarf@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
In article <4rhtd4dtnucq4avg1jon6bek8gud0npv5u@xxxxxxx>,
Robert <no@xxxxxx> wrote:

[snip]

I thought all mainframe shops had AbendAid, which shows you the line and
the variables it
references.

This shows how well *you* think, Mr Wagner... I've worked in shops as recently as 1996 (which, as mainframers know, is Just Barely Yesterday) that did not have AbendAid. Debugging was done from greenbar dumps... by those who didn't know to compile with a PMAP/LIST and look for what preceded the PSW, of course.

DD

The mainframe shop where I have worked for the last 20 years was a DOS/VSE shop until a few years before I arrived. Programmers used a CICS based editor that resembled ISPF, but TSO was reserved for the system programmers. We didn't get FileAid until Y2K. We had contract programmers who thought FileAid was part of MVS and couldn't believe we didn't have it. They had some difficulty working without it. I tend to use JCL and basic utilities instead, until we got DB2.

We had AbendAid most of the time, but I can "sort of" find my way around with a plain dump and disassembly listing if needed. It's a good incentive to write programs that don't abend.

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