Re: Adding components

From: Raptor (bogus_at_none.com)
Date: 01/27/05

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    J West <jimw@fluffypaws.co.uk> wrote in message
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    > "Raptor" <bogus@none.com> wrote in message
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    > > J West <jimw@fluffypaws.co.uk> wrote in message
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    > >> Check out Dev express www.devexpress.com I think or .net maybe
    > >> AWESOME!
    > >>
    > >> Regards
    > >>
    > >> James West
    > >
    > > They may well be good products, James, but I'll never know for sure.
    >
    > Thats a shame!
    > >
    > > That's because I won't test them.
    >
    > Your loss!
    > >
    > > That's because they apparently don't really ALLOW a programmer to test
    > > them
    > > prior to purchase.

    ...

    > > The company you mention does offer a 60-day MBG, but that's
    > > cart-before-the-horse, IMV. I want to test before purchase. I doubt I'm
    > > alone in that.
    >
    > You probably are!

    You think? Heh. My knowledge of human behavior suggests otherwise.
    Obviously, of course, the company sells product, or they wouldn't stay in
    business. The question is, how many more would they sell if they allowed
    download of a nag-screen .dcu for testing purposes?

    Considerably more, I'd bet.

    > Guarantees like that are pretty rare and usually only
    > provided by those who have complete confidence in their products or are
    > completely out to con you! If the latter was the case then we wouldn't be
    > having this discussion.

    One wonders why they would opt for they buy-then-try sales model if their
    confidence was all that high. Are they afraid a few of us will plop a RET or
    two into the .dcu file and use it without paying?

    Maybe a few will, but what's to prevent a few from using the product after a
    refund? I can see no rationale for buy-then-try, little to be gained, but
    much to gain from try-then-buy, source furnished upon purchase.

    I'm not implying they're dishonest or sell a bad product. I'm saying I don't
    see the virtue of their sales model from a business perspective.

    On the other hand, while I won't fault anyone who distributes free software
    (including source) and encourages donations, I'm not advocating this either.
    I think the testable control with an application "Unregistered" popup screen
    is the ideal middle ground.

    > > Raptor
    > >
    > >
    >
    > I can testify that they are well written extremely flexible and VERY easy
    to > program! No I don't work for them I have just had the intense pleasure
    of
    > using them for the last 4 years in various roles for various organisations
    I > have worked for. I can also say that they have been well received by all
    the > programmers I have introduced them to.

    > Still if you haven't the budget then you just can't get round that other
    > than to be absolutely certain that it won't cost as much for you to
    develop
    > your own!

    It has nothing to do with budget. I'm spending thousands of dollars worth of
    time to test a few hundred dollars worth of controls, and would dearly love
    to use an excellent, easy-to-use third party treeview and editor. I'll spend
    $1000 without blinking for a truly excellent editor.

    > The TdxTreeList is my all time favourite component EVER.
    > I must admit to only having used the Quantum grid itself a few times as I
    > tend not to work with data aware components much although it does work
    with
    > their implementation of a non data aware dataset (TdxMemData) which is
    > pretty awesome!
    >
    > Anyway - Good luck in your hunt! Let me know what you choose in the end I
    am > very interested as I have tested quite a few only to have been very
    > dissapointed.

    The Dream TreeView seems to perform very well, with a couple of minor
    exceptions. (My SaveToFile code is ten times faster than theirs. File size
    twice as large as the penalty, but one I'm willing to pay.) The only
    downside is lack of BiDi. If their editor is as good, though, I may order
    it.

    I never say never except when saying I never say never, so I may try the
    DevExpress... but I doubt it. I didn't see an editor control (extended RTF,
    etc.) on their site, either.

    Raptor

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