Re: Why was win32 killed?

From: Leroy Casterline (casterle_at_ccltd.com)
Date: 10/08/03


Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 19:17:10 -0600

David Smith <david@nowhere.com> wrote:

>I hope you would take a deep breath and just relax.

OK. Wow, that made me a bit lightheaded, but hasn't really changed much
else<g>.

>There's absolutely
>no reason to be upset. They have just modified their timetable. If you
>have ever worked in a large project, you would know that sometimes it's
>really hard to estimate how long some task will take. In this case there
>just wasn't enough time to get the Win32 and NET version of Delphi out
>before the end of the year. So they are bringing out the NET version
>first. Of course they are. And they have *promised* that there will be
>an update to Win32 Delphi later. Sounds good to me.

I have stated many times (although you may not have seen these messages)
that I am not concerned with a slippage in schedule. That is entirely
understandable. I would rather wait for a product to be finished than
receive a rushed version. I don't mind that they are releasing the .NET
portion of Octane first. That is also reasonable.

However...aa updated D7 is not what was promised. Borland clearly
promised one product, Octane, that would build projects for both .NET
and Win32 with a single IDE. It was on this promise that I spend what
is, to me, a significant amount of money.

>If I made an educated guess, I'd say that D.NET this year, a patch to D7
>after that (around Q1/2004) and a new version of Delphi-32 then (around
>Q2/2004). This was just a guess. And why won't they make a promise of
>this road map ?

They have already made the promise, and in no uncertain terms. All I am
asking for is what I was promised. No more, no less.

>But very likely Win32 development will be around for
>few more years (maybe longer?) and if Borland can make money in that
>market, of course they will.

I agree. That is why I haven't bought into the 'Delphi is dead'
arguments presented here.

>If you invested a lot to Delphi lately, just be happy, because you have
>made a wise buy. It has been the best tool I've encountered and I have
>no reason to look for other tools. (though I *still* want a patch for D7 ;-)

I will be happy when I receive what I was promised. Well, maybe not,
'cause there's always something to bitch about<g>. But seriously, if you
search on Google for my last name in the Borland newsgroups, you won't
find too many times that I've ranted about much of anything. I've not
been one to spread FUD or join the fear-fests. But you will find that I
have been active over the last month or so in the BCB group complaining
(perhaps bitterly) about CBX and, of course, in this newsgroup recently.



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