Re: Borland's IDE bugs and plans
From: Thomas Miller (tmiller_at_bss-software.com)
Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 22:16:56 -0500
IDE bugs have never been a priority to me. It slows down programming
so little that it is of no consequence. That doesn't mean I don't want
them fixed, but they are not show stoppers. Bugs in the VCL and
dbExpress prevent me from delivering product. They should be fixed soon.
So no, I am not turned around. There should be a clear expectation of
2 SP per version. Borland is screwing up on Delphi. They have
a great plan, they are doing a horrible job on delivering. Why
are TeamB members writing white papers that should be plastered all
over Borland's web site explaining the vision of Delphi 8?
It still amazes me that companies turn out crap and don't understand why
the product doesn't sell (Kylix). If they would get their act together,
they shouldn't be expanding Delphi by 10% per year, but at least 50%.
Show everyone that Delphi is still just as important as JBuilder. You
have lots of cash. Get an SP out the door for Delphi 7, fix the bugs
in the new IDE (D8) This should all be done by April 1. Then get
D8 VCL 32 out the door with some fixes for .Net VCL by Oct 1st.
Put together some nice online demos of the new management tools so
people can see how great they are and actually spend the extra
money on Architect. Maybe some documentation too.
How about some white papers per Nick Hodges on the Borland Web
site? How about full page adds in appropriate trade mags pointing
to this information?
How about some special pricing to get this thing flying out the door.
How about free Software Assurance until March 1st. Half off update
pricing until March 1st. Make some noise Borland !!!!!!
Have a programmer holding a Delphi 8 box with one foot in one puddle,
the other in another puddle. Have Win 32 API in one puddle and .Net
in the other.
"One product for both worlds"
Of course, none of this matters if the quality of Delphi continues to
slide to the point that it is as buggy as MS development tools.
Borland, start standing behind your products. You want me to invest
in your technology, then you need to invest in them as well. Shame
on you for hurting the reputation of Delphi.
> Nice to hear someone who is actually HAPPY because bugs they thought will
> never be fixed suddenly turned up fixed in C#Builder and then D8.
> Wow! Maybe Borland isn't that Dumb after all.
> Make sure Thomas Miller gets the good news? Might turn him around too.
> "David Smith" <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote in message
>>This thing just occurred to me yesterday and it explains something
>>Borland is doing right now. This has happened so far with Delphi ;
>>Borland knew that MS is going to leave all their Win32 programmers out
>>in the cold. So they figured that a tool with a capability to produce
>>Win32 and .NET code would be a hit. So they started making their
>>Delphi.NET compiler, linker and other stuff. And they also started
>>making their next generation IDE, in a project called Galileo. The
>>original plan was to use the Galileo IDE in Delphi 8 to do both Win32
>>and NET. As we all know, they run out of time and now we are getting
>>only the NET part. But hopefully the Win32 part will come to Galileo
>>But if one thinks about the original plan, that *does* explain their
>>behavior about not fixing the bugs in D7 IDE (they have been the most
>>annoying for me). They didn't want fix them twice. I can understand
>>that. They were so busy making their next generation IDE with all those
>>bugs fixed, so it was not on the top of their priority list. Sad that
>>the plan didn't work out and Win32 won't get those fixes for a while at
>>least, but I'm happy that I think that I now understand why this has
>>I tested this by checking out the two annoying QC IDE bugs :
>>376 “Add a way to save and select different project options for a
>>project” (26 votes)
>>2559 “Alphanumeric sorting in project window” (92 votes)
>>Could they be fixed in Galileo IDE (currently C#Builder, soon D8) ? And
>>what do I see ? They are both fixed !! This makes me happy. That means
>>that those terrible bugs will be finally fixed in Delphi 8.NET. And if
>>the reports are correct that Borland has an internal build of Galileo
>>IDE that builds projects with Delphi.NET, Delphi.32 and C# compilers,
>>then I'm quite excited. I want a product with those features.
>>This doesn't change the fact that they should have released service pack
>>for those nasty dbExpress and VCL etc. bugs. They are more than annoying.
-- Thomas Miller Delphi Client/Server Certified Developer BSS Accounting & Distribution Software BSS Enterprise Accounting FrameWork http://www.bss-software.com http://sourceforge.net/projects/dbexpressplus