Re: Borland Layoffs?

From: Derek Davidson (derek.davidson_at_REMOVEenterpriseblue.co.uk)
Date: 12/30/03 

Date: 30 Dec 2003 08:16:42 -0700

Tim Jarvis (Borland) wrote:

> I felt we were starting down the interpretation of the sematics of the
> word route, which I wasn't interested in pursuing.

Me either.
 
> I am not aware of anyone ever saying (or even implying) that "we don't
> care about your opinion" if I am mistaken please show me the post.

I don't *think* anyone at Borland or TeamB would be quite that stupid
so as to use the actual words. But here are some examples posted by
John Kaster (statements NOT preceded with '>') which I took from
tamaracka.com. They're from individual threads, each separated by
'--------':

<QUOTES>

> So far, what I could see from this NG is that D7 is preferred over
> release, and QC #5750 says the same.

Again, this newsgroup is not a representative sample of the entire
customer base by any stretch of the imagination. Nor does everyone on
this newsgroup agree with you. Nor does #5750 indicate the *cost* to
subsequent Delphi releases to release a D7 patch.
--------
> Unfortunately, a "Bunker mentality" doesn't pay-off either.

Borland representatives are still here. Furthermore, as I've stated
repeatedly, our newsgroup participants are not anywhere near a
representative
sample of the entire market. There is no bunker mentality at Borland.
--------
> That's because this is a capitalist economy. When you price something
too high --
> and indicated by the high number of emotional complaints about the
price it IS
> too high

Not at all. It's just too high to the very small vocal number of our
customers who participate in these newsgroups. You cannot ever assume
that the messages on this newsgroup are representative of our entire
customer base, because they rarely are. They are representative of one
market; those of our users who participate on our newsgroups.

</UNQUOTES>

Now, whilst accepting that emotion cannot be written, these kind of
statements (and there are more examples) all smack to me of "we don't
care about your opinion" 

-- 
Derek Davidson
http://www.enterpriseblue.com

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