Re: PC Plus magazine (UK) - Delphi 8 review

From: Alan Garny (someone_at_somewhere.com)
Date: 02/25/04 

Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 20:57:14 -0000

"Wayne Niddery [TeamB]" <wniddery@chaffaci.on.ca> wrote in message
news:403d0593$1@newsgroups.borland.com...
> Alan Garny wrote:
> > My view on D8 for .NET is that it wouldn't have made any difference to
> > release it in a year's time or so
> This has been hashed over many times already, but the simple fact is had
> Borland waited *even longer* to get a .Net version released, they would've
> lost customers directly that simply weren't willing to wait any longer,
and
> they would've lost big time in PR. Like it or not these are both real
issues
> that have to be dealt with.

I agree with you for the PR thing, though I would think that those who
really wanted to get their hands on .NET will have done so using MS tools.
They have been around for some time in comparison with C#B and D8fN. Not to
mention that Borland's .NET solutions still need some refinements (which, I
agree, is understandable for a version 1).

Anyway, this has indeed been discussed at lengths, so let's drop it here...
:)

> > Not that many people seem to be willing to embrace the .NET
> > wagon at this stage.
> I honestly believe you are badly mistaken here. *Even if* most are not
ready
> to go into full production of .net apps, most want the tool in order to
> learn, research, and experiment as part of forming their plans for actual
> development later. They cannot do this if the tool is not available. But
in
> addition to this, ASP.NET is (already here* - already being used
extensively
> for new development.

MS tools can allow them to do just that (learn, research and experiment)

Agreed on ASP.NET.

Anyway, D8fN's main strength, IMO, is the ability to convert a VCL project
to .NET with little (hopefully) problems.

> > lso, who is going to use D8fN if not people who
> > have already used Delphi in the past? I would, indeed, be very
> > surprised if there were going to be lots of D8 users who have never
> > used Delphi before.
> While it cannot be said they are beating down Borland's doors, there has
> been a noticeable number of people coming into these newsgroups over the
> last couple of years who have explicitly identified themselves as
> disaffected VB users that, faced with rewrites to VB.Net, decided to give
> Delphi a look-see instead.

Between giving a look at Delphi and adopting it, there is, I am sure you
will agree, quite a margin. I would be very interested to know how many of
those old VB users have actually switched to Delphi. Has Borland offered
them a special price, which would allow to determine how many of the current
user base is made of old VB users.

    Alan.

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