Re: Productivity in Delphi vs. Java/JSP

From: pnichols (paul_at_comp.net)
Date: 04/20/04 

Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 12:11:39 -0400

Tim Jarvis (Borland) wrote:

>
> <nice post, by the way>
>
Thanks
 
> Java's enterprise services have always been pretty compelling, and to
> be honest microsoft's component services with MTS / COM+ has been
> weaker in comparison (IMO). In my view it's only been the windows
> client side (swing and other components etc) that has let down Java and
> maybe that is changing... the C++ Builder X IDE is a damm fine example
> of an elegant and performant Java app, IMO.
>
Java Swing has changed since 1.3.1, but 1.4.x really changed the speed of
swing. Wait until 1.5, it is even faster. Prettier too :)
 
> However there is change in the wind, Microsoft are lining up for an
> assault on this technology space, and in typical fashion are going to
> take no prisoners, the service oriented architecture will be baked
> right into the operating system (longhorn) so services such as pooling,
> transactioning, messaging, remote invocation, Web services etc, will be
> part of the core framework api (project Indigo). IIS is set to become
> more and more an application server as well as web server, perhaps the
> distinction will be virtualy gone.
>
I do not doubt this at all. However, Sun is now giving away its Application
Server and JBoss is free as well. Who this will really hurt in the App
Server space, is BEA and IBM with Web Sphere, ( as far as revenue is
concerned), no doubt. Both of these will lose revenue, when MS has this
type of integration.
 
> 2005 onwards is going to be a very interesting time, I still think that
> there will be differentiators between the 2 main camps, but IMO it is
> great that there will be a credible choice in the enterprise space as
> well, I can't wait.
>
I think both NET and Java will be the platforms of the future, as will
Windows and Linux.

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