Re: compiled Delphi.NET?

From: Anthony Carrabino (anthonyc_at_vistasoftware.com)
Date: 06/08/04

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    I was at PDC 2003 and spoke with Jose Blakely, SQL Server Architect
    after a "Hosting the CLR" presentation. I asked him about SQL Server
    becoming fully managed at some point, he said it will not happen any
    time soon (actually years) simply because there are millions of lines
    of code to convert. He said that SQL Server is a mini-OS.

    The presentation was on hosting the CLR, during which the MS panel
    stated that many of new features in the CLR 2.0 were being added
    specifically to give SQL Server more efficiency in hosting the CLR.

    SQL Server is the 3rd most profitable software product at Microsoft,
    so it carries serious weight. IMO, this Managed C++ stuff, with the
    ability to generate unmanaged code (which, is there today) is just
    another in-house need by the SQL Server team to beef up their own
    tools for making SQL Server better. I wouldn't read too much into
    this divergence in managed .NET architecture purity as the way
    to do it.

    The crux of .NET is managed code, otherwise, what's the point?
    Microsoft will push security (i.e.. managed code) super hard to sell
    Longhorn. And yes, 64-bit computing. Over the next 24-36 months,
    i predict we will see the following (all of which designed to sell
    Longhorn):

    - a continued emphasis by MS for developers to write managed code
    - the need for end-users to run managed code (i.e.. security)
    - 64-bit computing will be pushed along with Longhorn (Intel and AMD
       will want this, hence the quick about face by Intel)
    - less emphasis on Pocket PC OS because new micro-pcs
      (the size of PDAs) are running full blown XP, which seriously hurts
      the Pocket PC growth. So one less platform to worry about.

    Side comment about 64-bit: maybe IL code will be go 64-bit without
    needing changes. I heard rumors about this, but I'm not a compiler guy,
    so i'm over my head on this last point. 

    -- 
Anthony Carrabino
www.vistadb.net
"Paul Dolen" <nospam@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> > The next version of VC++ does indeed seem to have performance
> >improvements in its unmanaged compiler.  I remain to be convinced that
> >IL produced with Managed C++ will be "better" than IL produced with C#
> >or Delphi.  I very much doubt that will be the case.
>
> What I'm getting from the C++ group is that managed C++ is dead or
> will be in the next version.  Managed C++ produces IL which nobody
> wants.  If they want IL, they want C# or VB or Delphi.  But, the next
> version of VC++ will allow .NET access from real compiled C++.  Which
> is why I'm asking, might that not be a better route for Delphi also?
> Maybe?
>
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