Re: I think Delphi 9 Win32 could be huge success...

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Date: 15 Jun 2004 23:57:42 -0700

J O Holloway wrote:

> That would be impressive, to see .NET fail. I know, you're only saying it
> won't be a huge success; I'm saying that in Microsoft's eyes, anything less
> than a huge success would mean failure. As much money as they're sinking
> into the .NET framework, they really do seem to be "betting the company" on
> it. They're porting over everything to this framework, including all their
> server apps like SQL Server 2005. Therefore, eventually (sooner rather than
> later) all new PCs which have the MS "OS" will also have the .NET framework.
> Sounds like "write once, run anywhere, even over the net" to me. Lofty
> goal, but I'll bet the idea of causing a transition from 16-bit to 32-bit
> looked like a non-starter back then.

I just hope Microsoft don't screw with the .NET framework, so as to prevent programs compiled with
non-MS compilers (Mono comes to mind) to fall over.

> I'm no fanboy of MS, but I'm not going to ignore the fact that there's a
> gorilla in the room.
>
> The only surprise I ever get, day to day, is that Borland continues to make
> any money, considering that their marketing (at least, here in the US)
> ranges from meager to nonexistant. Every day, in the ISV where I work, we
> get the message that we're going to Java or .NET, and away from Delphi,
> sooner rather than later, end of story. It's not so much that our
> leadership dislikes Delphi; it's more that our customers are trained by MS
> to ask if we're using MS tools.

Now that's just silly. Why would a client wish to know what tools you are using? About the only
information they should know is probably the language (and maybe not even then).

> That's always a shocker, too, to have a client ask me about my tools. Take
> buying a car as a contrasting example. Not once have I ever inquired of the
> dealer whether the manufacturer used a specific brand of sheetmetal press in
> building the vehicle. Why do our customers ask what tools we're using? MS
> marketing, that's why.

It shouldn't matter, anyways. As long as the program does whatever it was you said it would do,
then that is all the client should be concerned about. Oh, that and the price tag.

> If Borland wants to really compete with that,
> they're going to have to market more, not just to my boss and his boss, but
> also to the IT consumer at large, so that the day comes when any customer
> asks if I've written my software using Borland tools, if they ask at all.

Hell, what happens when a client asks me, and I tell them (eventually) that I use Open Source?

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