Re: Delphi 8 vs Visual Studio

From: Brian Moelk (bmoelk_at_NObrainSPAMendeavorFOR.MEcom)
Date: 06/26/04 

Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 00:34:27 -0400

> > And you can't learn those things teaching Java or C#?
>
> It's a known fact that other languages are better suited for teaching
> than others. You can teach many things with Java and C#, but there are
> better languages.

And IMO, there are better languages than Delphi depending on what you are
trying to teach.

> >>I'd much rather see them teaching with best teaching language
> >>and get the students *really* learn the basics. They can always learn
> >>the java class librarys later, if they need to.
> >
> > Ask the students which language/tools they would want to learn.
>
> Here you are very wrong.

What am I wrong about? What exactly do you think I am saying?

> If somebody in the university level starts to
> teach what students want, then they are truly on the wrong path.

Why? Is it possible that some students will actually learn more if they are
taught things that they want to learn?

> E.g. in my university there was a database course, where we were using a
> small, fast and SQL-standard compliant DB, but some students started to
> complain that why aren't we using e.g. Oracle. As our professor told
> them there are very many educational and practical reasons to use the
> one we were.

And that's fine, each professor will have their reasons for what they teach
and how they teach it. There are good professors and there are bad
professors.

> If the students, who don't know any better, would be let to decide, it
> would be all Java and Oracle. Just because they think it would be more
> useful for them, but there are wrong.

There are many brilliant people who choose and use Java and Oracle...are
they "wrong"?

> It's all about the CS concepts.
> Learn them and you become a professional. And professionals get job
offers.

IMO, the best professionals are the ones that understand the fundamental
concepts. However I've met many programmers that get paid, and get paid
well, who can't code very well and don't understand squat.

Also, many recruiters and IT managers hire people based on the specific
language/products/tools they have experience in...so in acquiring a job,
IMO, it's not all about the CS concepts. 

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Brian Moelk
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