Re: Is anything spectacular going to happen around Delphi anymore?

From: Serge Dosyukov \(Dragon Soft\) ("Serge)
Date: 06/28/04 

Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 09:32:39 -0700

PS. You seems going with conversations where you have opportunity to
overspeak opponent... and not discuss facts. Which you implay you know more
then everybody. It was said: "more I learn, less I know". I think it is very
wise not to overestimate own knowledge and consider others oppinions. It is
appear to me we have a situation of very high selfesteem...
Which is good, I respect you and your oppinions, your effort and your time
here in these NG. But... let it go... people are different and have
different point of view on their work, their life, and have different
experience. I think they have rights to say their issues and be heard and
not banished. Oposite? Nobody will be here. It is a world of free speach and
everybody can excersise it as they would like until they cross a line.
I would say, you are close in your craving for protecting of Borland image.
First, I think it is in Borland hand to do so. Second, in open sociaty, one
should gain right to banish someone first, before actualy do so in any way.
You've got a power of canceling posts, good for you, but you cannot overrule
peoples oppinions, especially then they have right arguments, even if you do
not like them.

"Rudy Velthuis [TeamB]" <rvelthuis@gmx.de> wrote in message
news:xn0djzjihj5rl2019-moderator@newsgroups.borland.com...
> At 17:54:53, 26.06.2004, Derek Davidson wrote:
>
>> Rudy Velthuis [TeamB] wrote:
>>
>> > Any code not doing something too far out of the blue
>>
>> IOW, the fishfacts demo will compile but other than that you're on your
>> own?
>>
>> No MIDAS? No WebSnap?
>
> AFAIK, MIDAS/Websnap wrap the real technology, and make it easier for

MIDAS/DATASNAP, for example, was/is a technology. If Borland decide to
abandon it in some way, like it did happened with Delphi 8, for any good
resons (resources, competition, etc), we have no other choice like to
abandon it as well and use something else.
In software industry, which you know better then me, technologies used are
similar in many different way. MS SQL Server is similar to Oracle for
example just because they are based ANSI SQL, but it does not imply what you
can grab all your code and switch in one day. There are many nuances which
will not allow to do so (in so short time).
Technologies available in .Net are similar to one in Delphi or from Borland.
This was one of the problems why Microsoft paid some cache to Borland in a
past. But it doesn't mean you can use it right a way without adoption, not
unless you do your program for fun.

> you. That does not mean you can't still use it, albeit in a less
> conventient way. And you conveniently snipped my sentence saying "Of
> course this assumes you don't use a technology not available on .NET."
>
> AFAIK, C# does not have MIDAS or Websnap either, so moving to a different
> development environment will not help you one bit. How do you get along
> in C#, without Websnap/MIDAS? Since Delphi gives you access to all
> technologies available on .NET, a Delphi user would never be in any
> disadvantage.

I can give you one to start
- ADO wasn't implemented how it should be even in 7.1 (ADO.Net in D8 is
little different and access is modified)

> So unless code uses these missing Borland technologies, it will usually
> be easily portable. This does not mean it is a sine cure, but it means
> that it will always be easier to port your Delphi code to Delphi for .NET
> than to a completely different language.

If people working in industry for long time there is almost erelevant in
which language people are programming.
They choose environment, attitude and support. Delphi was great, I hope it
will be like this in a future, will wait for September...
"Some missing" can make 30-50% of application logic, especially if you write
N-tier applications, which Borland did push for last 3-5 years very hard.

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