Re: Delphi Bugs
From: Jon Purvis (jon.purvis_at_tpwd.state.tx.us)
Date: 08/04/04
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Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2004 10:05:01 -0500
Wayne Niddery [TeamB] wrote:
> Jon Purvis wrote:
>
>>It doesn't bother me so much that MS includes a large number of extra
>>programs with Windows. They can include the Media Player, IE, Outlook
>>Express, etc if they want to give it away. What really burns me is my
>>inability to remove them, and the claim that IE is necessary for
>>everything else to run.
>
>
> Why is it necessary to *remove* them? They don't stop you from installing
> and using other products. The little bit of disk space they take up
> (relative to the size and expense of disk space these days) is hardly a
> serious concern.
"We've put 150 files on your computer totaling 50 MB. They do nothing - it's just 50 MB of of binary
0. We think it's cool and know you will to. The uses of these is obvious. If you don't like it, you
can't do anything about it. Tough luck. You have a big hard drive, so it's not like it's taking up
that much room, right?"
I bet you'd want to remove those files. I see no difference between 50 MB of junk and 50 MB of MS
files that I will never use. I should be allowed ot remove them. It's not a concern to you. I don't
have a big hard drive in any of the computers I regularly use, so it is important to me. I clear my
recycle box every day and regularly clean out the temp folders. Temp internet files get
automatically deleted when I exit the browser. Why should I have to put up with any software on my
machine that I don't want? I have never used Netmeeting. I cannot ever foresee using it in the
future. It is not used by a single person in the agency. Yet it gets installed on every machine
because that is the default. MS Office allows a typical and customizable install - I'm just saying
Windows should do the same. Okay, bad example - Netmeeting isn't that hard to get rid of, but you
get the idea.
If I have a functional computer that has no trace of IE, Outlook Express, or Office, I've just
greatly reduced the number of virus, trojans, worms, etc that can effect me. Since I don't use
these products at all, deleting them would be beneficial. Keeping them helps me not a bit, and may
harm me if my antivirus software misses something.
>>Fine, a brower is needed...let me choose the
>>browser, don't force one on me. Just make the Windows install default
>>be basic windows - if you want all the bells and whistles, put checks
>>next to them.
>
>
> How is making IE and other products available by default *forcing* anyone to
> use them? That's like saying sticking a donut in front of you *forces* you
> to eat it.
There a quite a few things that force you to use IE, even if you have a different browser installed.
Forcing me to have a browser is one thing, forcing me to use a substandard (IMHO) browseris another.
> For millions of people, being able to take a new computer home, plug it in,
> turn it on, answer a few simple questions, and be able to browse the net
> without having to know *anything* specific about browsers and media players
> is a *good* thing. Why do you want to take that away from them. Will you say
> "for their own good"? Who are you to decide what someone else's good is?
I don't want to take it away from them, I want them to quit making me use the newbie default.
They've decided these things are good for me, when I know they are not.
Jon
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