Re: (Long) My completely subjective thoughts on all these..' what Borland should do'... discussions... and on what Borland should do ;)

From: Alisdair Meredith (TeamB) (alisdair.NO.SPAM.PLEASE.meredith_at_uk.renaultf1.com)
Date: 08/13/04


Date: 13 Aug 2004 02:29:23 -0700

C4D - Kim Madsen wrote:

<Lots of stuff>

Just a few corrections from my own memory <g>

Turbo Pascal for Windows was *always* a windows based IDE. I don't
remember a Borland Pascal compiler with DOS IDE supporting Windows
executables (although I skipped Borland Pascal 7, which was the only
one to support both DOS and Windows, these had been 2 different
products till then)

However, I do remember the C++ compiler going this route. I suspect
you have mixed your products.

As for Borland C++ standards compliance:
There *was* no ISO C++ standard until 1998 for Borland C++ to be
compliant with. So even C++Builder predates the ISO standard. I have
heard that MS success was that they made no effort to track the
standard, maintaining consistency for their customers, while Borland
were *too* eager to follow the standard, and so the language kept
changing as the standard evolved.

This came to a head for MS with Visual C++ v6 which was badly behind
the times now the standard was ratified, while BCB was selling itself
on the strength of its compliance (among other things)

This all changes with VC7, where MS got serious about supporting
standards again, and 7.1 was a huge leap forward for them.

BCB has not moved much regarding standards since v4, and BCB5 is when
standards starting becoming more of a liability. When BCB5 was
released, there were no C++ compilers that could claim to be close to
standards conforming. 5 years later that is no longer the case.

For me, the strength of the Borland products over the years has been
intuitive, easy to use, productive IDEs combined with powerful, well
designed libraries. The huge leap of productivity I get comes from
building on top of OWL/VCL/etc. and with VCL the easy integration of my
own home grown domain specific tools into the IDE. This is again made
possible by the great design of VCL.

AlisdairM(TeamB)



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