Re: Disadvantages of Delphi.NET

From: JED (nospam_at_nospam.com)
Date: 08/23/04


Date: 22 Aug 2004 16:38:02 -0700

Derek Davidson wrote:

> Once a day wouldn't be an issue, I agree. But I, all the delegates and
> some others posting here in this very ng are not so fortunate and seem
> to have to suffer multiple re-boots. When that occurs, it matters how
> long it takes to load.

Surely you have logged these issues into QC then? Otherwise you really
can't expect Borland to do something about them. You can't fix bugs
you don't know exist...

Was it just the ASP.NET issues that required reboots and only because
IIS was being locked?

>
> > Well it is a different framework. To expect not to have to change
> > any code is a bit naive.
>
> I agree. So did they. What they said was that if they have to change
> the code, why not change it to C#?

Guess their applications are not that big then. C# isn't the
framework. It's just another language that can be used to access it.

> >> WAP apps etc.
> >
> > ??
>
> Apps for mobile phones.

So you mean server side apps to push WAP content.

> > As the instructor in the training course you obviously told them
> > foreach was a language feature of C#, not a framework feature.
> > Otherwise I'd be asking for a refund on the training costs.
>
> I did indeed tell them that C# and VB.NET had such an iterator and
> that they were features of the languages.
>
> They were surprised that the writers of Delphi did not consider it an
> important enough feature to provide such a thing in Delphi.
>
> They were unimpressed when I told them that it was probably coming in
> D9. They were even more unimpressed that this 'rumour' came as a
> result of a personal blog by one of the Delphi developers and not
> Borland themselves.

So the CEO sound announce upcoming features? I'd prefer the guy that
implements them to let us know personally. Isn't that what blogging is
all about?

What do you propose here? Why were they unimpressed? I thought Delphi
developers worked for Borland - perhaps I am wrong in this assumption.

> There was a general feeling that Borland had rushed the product to
> market to get profits for the end of the quarter, to the detriment of
> a solid tool for the developers.

I agree with this

> Sure. But I'd prefer that Borland gave us the impression that they're
> listening and doing something about it. Right now, they don't appear
> to give a stuff.

I think they are listening. Employee blogs have been introduced. New
features announced in advance.

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