Re: Is D2005 the most expensive editor in the world?

From: Dan Ridenhour (ng_at_digital-alchemy.net)
Date: 11/22/04 

Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 22:57:00 -0600

Larry,

I understand your outlook on delphi, and I have a longterm view as well,
having used their tools since TP 1983. I actually look at Delphi from two
perspectives... that of my employer and what they need, and as a independent
developer since I develop software separate from my day job.

In my personal case, I only need the Pro SKU, and only use Delphi... so
$399 a year for an upgrade is a better deal than $1000 for SA. Also,
borland has a history like the trek films... except the opposite... all even
numbered trek flims are better and all ODD numbered delphi releases are
usually the solid performers... D3, D5, and D7 were all great tools... but
D2, D4, and D6 were kinda also rans. So im not even upgrading every year.
Everything on paper for D2005 looks great... but its lack of printed doc,
various glitches, and context sensitive IDE make it a longer learning
experience to see if D2005 will be the rightful successor to D7 or not.
The more I play the more I learn, but D2005 doesnt give a good initial
experience at all. The new doc layout works really well for someone who at
least knows what their trying to do... but its next to useless in easily
seeing what the tool is capable of in the first place.

Over the years my employers needs have fluxuated... We purchased D1, D2, D3
C/S, and D5 Ent, mainly for the Oracle support in recent years... but with
the tightening of purse strings in recent years we only purchased D7 pro.
Its a real hard sell pushing D2005 with them, and so far I cant recommend
that they purchase it. I need to play with my copy alot more to see what
it really can do.

"Larry Drews" <ldrewsNOSPAM@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:Xns95A8ED7B7E042ldrewstampabayrrcom@207.105.83.66...
> "Dan Ridenhour" <ng@digital-alchemy.net> wrote in news:41a165b1$1
> @newsgroups.borland.com:
>
>>> If you do not think you received enough value, simply return it and get
>>> your money back. You have 60 days I think.
>>
>> Yep, for the first time in 21 years of buying borland tools... im
>> contemplating doing just that.
>>
>
> I infer from your comment that you did not sign up for Software Assurance
> with D7/D8. Since I have a long term outlook and committment to Delphi, I
> did sign up for SA, so I budget for and will pay the annual SA
> subscription. So for me it doesn't make any difference whether Delphi
> 2005
> is a polished version or not, I will just wait for the next release which
> I
> will get automatically and without further cost.
>
> But if you had to pay the upgrade price, then I would support your
> decision
> whichever way you decide to go.
>
> However, I would say that I don't think that it is very effective to treat
> the purchase of Delphi as a one-time event. I look at it as a multi-year
> investment in an evolving toolset which in the past has given me great
> value and which I anticipate will do so in the future. But that is just
> me.
>
> Its sort of like finding out that your girlfriend/wife doesn't always look
> the way she does on date night, but its not effective to switch just
> because of that. Because all of them have that same attribute. So I
> stick
> with the toolset that I find most compatible and work things out.
>
>
>

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