Re: There is no .NET in Vista Code?

"Brion L. Webster" wrote:
I.P. Nichols wrote:

I often wonder in today's world what percentage of the targeted market of
a commercial .NET program already has the runtime installed. I suspect in
most cases it's quite large. I might be overly harsh but it does seem to
me that a group of developers who really don't intend to develop for the
.NET market seize on the runtime download "problem" to rationalize their
decision.

But that's one reality of the marketplace. In *my* experience, very few
potential customers run Automatic Updates, even with SP2, and it's worse
in corporate environments*. In these cases, my potential customers would
have to install the runtime. Do I get a redistribution license from
Microsoft? Do I tell them exactly where to download just the runtime
from? What if MS changes the links? Do I just tell them to run Windows
Update over & over? If I'm a good advocate, I should help them get the
runtime and the security patches they're missing, at least for .NET, if
nothing else.

Almost everyone I deal with already has .NET installed and the very few that
don't haven't objected to doing it by internet. All my stuff is custom so I
don't the same problems as someone who intends to sell "consumer" apps. Far
as I know there aren't too many retail "consumer" .NET apps being sold at
this time but there a whale of a lot of free stuff available for download.
BTW, what is the profile of your potential customers and how complex will be
your potential new app?

Some time ago the kids gave my wife an inexpensive Dell machine for email,
it came with Win-XP SP1 home and also had NET 1.1 installed. It hooks to my
DSL via a wireless home network and I have always left the auto update on
and never had a problem, it did not update to NET 2 I can't remember but
think you must manually instruct it to install NET 2.

IMO you should avoid installing any security patches, point them to
Microsoft. Don't get caught up in that briar patch.<pun intended> Also, I
have seen somewhere that while Net 2.0 will install on Win-XP SP1 it is
considered unsupported by Microsoft. In the past I have installed NET 2.0 on
Win-XP SP1 but I definitely prefer SP2 and to the extent possible Microsoft
is driving everyone to upgrade to SP2

I could have sworn that I saw somewhere that there was a MSI merge module
for the framework but that's not the case. I have never seen anywhere that
Microsoft had any objection to you including the dotnetfx.exe file in your
setup package but you will need to do some OS testing before installing and
sample code for that is included in the following references. It's a lot
easier to just test for presence and point to Microsoft for installing.

The best advice I have been able to find is at this blog, he has several
suggestions:
http://blogs.msdn.com/astebner/archive/2006/01/15/513125.aspx

Another old and slightly off-the-wall, method is here:
http://www.codeproject.com/dotnet/dotnetdeployment.asp?df=100&forumid=14748&exp=0&select=436241

If .NET isn't preinstalled in the corporate image, it's not likely to get
installed ever, until an application needs it.

IMO that should be the responsibility of the company network admin guy.

HTH - Eip




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