Re: Delphi in more schools (was Re: Microsoft here I come)
- From: Jim Cooper <jcooper@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 23:16:08 +0100
> The thing is, after 25 or 30 years of developing, expanding, maintaining,
> refactoring... and reading up on programming "stuff" I've sorta figured
> out a few things (for me anyway).
The trouble with most of the self-proclaimed "real world" programmers I come across is that they stopped reading (if they ever started) a long time ago. And they never read up on the important things, but confined themselves to language-specific topics.
And the number of years experience is an orthogonal quantity. Many years ago when I was being trained to interview people for jobs*, the senior guy training me pointed out that many people do not have 20 years of experience, they have 1 year of experience 20 times.
Some of the worst code I've seen has been written by highly "experienced" people. And if you do find a bad one, they are almost impossible to educate. At least a new graduate should be used to being taught things :-)
IMO, it is not really about education levels, or experience, but about attitude and possessing certain talents that I'm not sure can be taught. If you cannot reason well, I'm not sure doing logic (or any other) courses at uni will help, for example.
Having done well in a good CS degree is an indication that a person may possess such skills, and be motivated to improve them. But really the only way to find out is actually hire them :-)
Nope, but hiring them with prior experience in a field ain't a bad move<vbg>.
Which is reasonably unlikely for new CS graduates, since most don't have any.
Cheers,
Jim Cooper
* I'm not sure there is a US equivalent of what I did, but in Australia and the UK I worked in what are called job centres, if that means anything to you
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