Re: Why Turbo Delphi for win32 need .NET SDK?

In article <44ff5d64$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Jon Robertson says...

Seriously though. If a developer that wanted to do Win32 development was
disappointed because Turbo Delphi had .NET pre-requisites, do you /really/
think they'd decide to switch to .NET development instead? Isn't the
whole point that they wanted to /avoid/ .NET?

And I thought it was my bad for using an experienced developer as my
test model! ;)

An experienced developer might be thinking this way. A NEW developer
who didn't know any different, who thought that .net was something new-
fangled and not really Windows'y (something to do with the internet?
maybe?)......


However, it has been stated /many/ times that the
.NET dependency will not be removed from the IDE's Win32 personality.

Not quite true.

It has been stated times that the .NET dependency /CANNOT/ be removed
from the IDE's Win32 personality.

i.e. that it has to stay for technical reasons. These are spurious in
some cases:

Prob: .net support required for components that not everyone will
want or need

Ans: Allow me to choose not to install those and then
I won't need .net.

And tenuous in others:

Prob:- we need .net to support feature X that we chose to
implement using .net framework classes

Ans: Implement them in unmanaged, native code. Not only will I not
then need .net, but you will be adding even more value by being
able to provide those technologies in the VCL _for_all_ to use
and further extend and enrich the product itself.


Stating that it _/WILL/_ not be removed would be a matter of policy or
marketting, not technology.


I guess given that the reasons given for why it _cannot_ be removed are
not imho exactly watertight, you might argue that there are in effect
reasons for why it _will_ not be removed after all, but it would be more
honest for Borland/DTG simply to come out and say that they are
philosophically wedded to .net and that Win32 will always play second
fiddle in the future .net orchestra, rather than giving the impression
that they are victims of circumstance.

;)


For the record - I currently cannot install Turbo Delphi.32 because I
don't have the necessary .net pre-requisites. For some reason the
installer I have is not self contained - it doesn't appear to have the
pre-requisites contained within it and no readily apparent way to help
me get the bits that I need.

Add to that the fact that for some reason my request for an activation
file resulted in the square root of fanny adams by way of a response as
the email account I had registered was a hotmail one (a paid for hotmail
one I might add, which I needed when transitioning from UK to NZ and
still use as my primary email addy).

All in all, the Turbo experience so far has been less than inspirational
for me.

:(

--
Jolyon Smith
.

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