Re: RubyOnRails and Intraweb

Relaxin wrote:
"none" <""paul\"@(none)"> wrote in message news:458387ba$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Looks interesting for newbies. However, like all of these other frameworks that generate code for you, sooner or later you are going to need to do something that it cannot do for you.

Have you even looked at their product or Demo?
Obviously not.


Yes, I have, and that is why I wrote what I did!!

What does AJAX or a Web site have to do with sticking design in a Database? Want to make your web site run super slow? Use a Database.

That is not to say that certain "data" (aka Dynamic constantly changing data), should not be stored in a DB, but for normal static type text? Get real!!

This may work for a site that has 10 pages or so, but wait till you need a site with a 100 or more pages (portals and the like), and which may need to support tens of thousands of users.

Plus, the back end server is fully proprietary. Ok, fine. Now you need to scale. How will you? You need to write your own extensions. How are you going to do that? You need to modify your JS libraries, because the Scripting language and glue tools do not do what you need to do. Well, you are either going to have to create work arounds, or start over.

Believe me, I have been doing Web and Intranet/Extranet development or lead in the development of these types sites for fortune 500 companies for now over 6 years. There is no way I would recommend starting down this path with a Code generator that hid the details from me. All you are ultimately going to do, is convince yourself you known something you do not!

I have no problem with tools or IDEs that produce standard code that you can override, or extend using common standard code (ie standard Delphi code, Java, C#, Java Script, or fill in the blanks with the language/scripting language of your choice). That is fine. But to think you are going to be able to really do AJAX web programming without Java Script, XML, JSON, or MVC type architectural design knowledge; you are only fooling yourself.

If all you want to do is put up mom and pop type sites, go for it! But do not think that this is going to qualify you to be consider a Web developer ad especially an AJAX developer.
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