Re: kilyx

Daniël Mantione wrote:
Yes, but neither Eclipse nor VS.NET comes with a LCL form
designer for example. If technically possible at all,

Yes there is a lot of work there, but IMO, it's possible.

providing such a thing in VS.NET or Eclipse would require a
large group of Pascal programmers to join a project to build
such a thing for Eclipse or VS.NET. It doesn't work that way
in practise, as Pascal programmers don't want to have to code
their pet project in Java for example.

It's working for PHP, Ruby, etc. Certainly there is appeal to having an
all pascal IDE, however I question even if CodeGear is going to benefit
long term from having their own IDE core with BDS.

In the case of Eclipse, that would give us a bloated Java
based IDE, instead of the native, fast, IDE we have now. In
the case of VS.NET that would have given us a Microsoft only
IDE. So much for a cross platform strategy.

NetBeans is also a viable option.

The Lazarus approach allows the IDE to fully use the
advantages of its own development environment. Further, the
development team eats its own dogfoot by using Lazarus to
build Lazarus, this has the advantage quality. Lastly, any
user can directly contribute code and even become Lazarus
developer.

Yes, there are advantages, but there are many disadvantages as well.
Reinvent the wheel/NIH syndrome comes to mind.

These things are very important in open source development.

Agreed, however there has to be a critical mass to support such efforts.
I'm skeptical if Lazarus can command the critical mass required to
remain competitive amongst other IDEs, especially without corporate
sponsorship.

Yes, but don't confuse it with a "Cross platform Delphi for free".

Understood.

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