Re: You finally beat me down
- From: "Jeff" <jlabute@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 09:24:03 -0800
Too all:
I have spent a number of years developing a certain app ... it uses MySQL
3.23 and Zeos 5.xx components, Turbopower OnGuard, APro, Systools, and
Quickreports 3.51 all on delphi v6 pro. The years were passing by and all
the components and database engine were getting older... so I decided to
update...
In one swoop I changed over to BDS 2006, MySQL 4.1, Zeos 6.6.1, all
turbopower stuff again, QuickReports 4.06, added XP scheme and with few few
problems to conquer and it all still works too... except a few small
quickreports things I am working on. Upgraded everything in a few days. I am
relieved that it wasn't as hard as I thought it was going to be... with
minimal help from the groups here :-) I had to edit some forms in text mode
to make the zeos database switch work.
I ain't beat down... I am beat UP! (but i mean that in a good way...hehe)
Jeff
"Mike Margerum" <junk@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Been using Borland products since turbo pascal... yadda yadda....
I feel like such a schmuck "upgrading" to BDS2006. I had a perfectly
great BCB6 setup but I figured i'd support CodeGear and buy BDS 2006. I
didn't have any immediate need to move to BDS but I was coaxed by the ide
enhancements, Rave bundle, Debugger improvements, and XP theme support.
10 hours and 2 installs later, i'm still not up and running. I have
crashed at least 10 times in the last 10 hours. How in god's name can
installing components crash the IDE? I had to kill it from the task
manager. Yes i installed update 2. In the end, this bogus package
management crap did me in.
I have 2 gigs of ram and this thing is an absolute pig.
I am so frustrated to see this company blow it.
The pascal language is has remained basically unchanged since Delphi 3.
Curiously this is about the time Anders left.
Your stock VCL controls lack the most basic functionality. I know you
don't want to tick off your 3rd party vendors but my god man you haven't
touched them in 5 years. How bout a grid control with some basic editors?
You know it's bad when .net WinForms has a richer control set than you.
It's having to migrate all of these 3rd party controls to the next version
of the ide that keep people from upgrading.
You don't support a big chunk of the boost library. There isn't a C++
programmer worth his salt that doesn't use this library.
The whole package management thing is a disgrace. I'll die a happy man if
i never need to get Indy working in BCB6 again. You did improve things in
BDS 2006 by allowing for the pascal compiler to generate the C++ stuff but
it crashes.
While you were wasting your time chasing .net, you could have made your
flagship *native* compiler cross compile to linux, Windows CE, mac. You
could have added unicode, 64 bit. Here's a tip. Nobody is going to buy
BDS to do .net programming. Windows CE is begging for a delphi class
native tool.
I'm moving all my future projects to .net/C#/visual studio 2005. I have
used that IDE for 18 months and it has never crashed. If I have a large
native app to build, it will be in WTL/wxWidgets or QT.
I'll keep BCB6 around for some quick and dirty native apps.
Good Luck guys. You are going to need it.
.
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