Re: So, how's D2007?

In article <45ff2a8a$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Bob Dawson says...
"Jolyon Smith" wrote

SA has no such redeeming qualities. It is a gamble pure and simple.

No, it's a long term strategy to make my purchases from CodeGear predictable
from a budgetting perspective, and cheaper over the long term. Both of which
it easily acomplishes.

You simply do not and cannot know that it will achieve those things.


What's that? You don't know what software I'm going to release or if
it's going to be of any interest to you?

Pssst - same goes for CodeGear SA, and my SA deal is cheaper!

No, actually, the same doesn't go for CodeGear at all. I make a living in
software development, primarily using CodeGear tools. When you have a track
record of providing tools that put food on my table more effectively than
anything else I could buy, I'll surely take you up on your offer.

Why? You're not buying a track record, you're buying future software
updates, from a company currently unwilling or unable to give any clear
indication of what future software products they will be offering let
alone actually delivering or when.

But let's accept for sake of argument that you are buying a track
record? Whose track record? CodeGear have no history apart from that
which they inherit from Borland.

D4, D6, D8, BDS 2005 ...

A more recent track record? How about selling a product at one target
group then retrospectively and unilaterally redefining that target group
to exclude people that the product was specifically marketted at.

Are these the things you hold up as justifying belief in their track
record?


it's no gamble whatsoever
to think I'll still want to be using it next year.

It's a gamble to expect that the version you will be using next year
will not be the one you are using now.


The only question people considering SA need to ask themselves is whether
they see themselves continuing to use Delphi in the next 3+ years.

No, that's not the question at all. The question is whether they will
blindly and without question upgrade to every new version that comes
along as soon as it is released.

If the answer to that question is "Yes" then SA makes sense. No
argument.

But if the answer is "No, I'll look at each release and decide whether
it's worth while for me at that time or some future point to upgrade"
then SA -might- be worth while, but it might not.


What is
does have to do with is a sense of professional identity

Is it an economic argument or an emotional one?

You can't have it both ways.

--
Jolyon Smith
WHILE INKEY$ WEND
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  • Re: So, hows D2007?
    ... It is a gamble pure and simple. ... it's a long term strategy to make my purchases from CodeGear predictable ... Pssst - same goes for CodeGear SA, and my SA deal is cheaper! ... moment, however, using Delphi pays my bills, and it's no gamble whatsoever ...
    (borland.public.delphi.non-technical)
  • Re: So, hows D2007?
    ... it's a long term strategy to make my purchases from CodeGear ... There is the track record of the individuals involved, ... to stagnate or do things the hard way because I'm too cheap to buy what I ... costs under SA are very low compared to my income, so I appear to be making ...
    (borland.public.delphi.non-technical)
  • Re: D2007
    ... It is for a product with no track record, for a company that either HAS a track record, or DOESN'T HAVE a track record (since you seem to want to continually harp on CodeGear not being Borland). ... I find the product offering 'interesting', and in the normal course of things, I would have put the offer in my 'pending' file, and would have reviewed it as folks comment on the product. ... Especially with an unproven product -- it's a whole different thing when versioning something, but even then, Borland has made some past huge mistakes. ...
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  • Re: D2007
    ... I just got an email for a discount on Delphi for PHP. ... It's a new product, with no track record, from a 'new' company, with no track record. ... Are the same brain-dead morons who ran marketing at Borland still working for CodeGear? ... CodeGear expects to use the 'buy it quickly before the price goes up' gimmick to get some revenue in the door, without stopping to think how badly it reflects on the product. ...
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  • Re: Wahoo!
    ... team that has a track record of making some rather poor decisions ... One major obstacle you guys will have is that only say 1% of the user ... and gives CodeGear the benefit of the doubt. ...
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