Re: Delphi and the .Net platform

"Bruce McGee" wrote:
Until Microsoft stops arbitrarily breaking code going forward and makes
it possible to move back at all, they won't have caught up to Borland
and CodeGear in some of the things that are most important to me.

You need to get beyond .NET 1.1! There has been no code breaking since .NET 2.0 except for an rare bug fixes and that only breaks if you took advantage of the bug when you coded your app. However, if you have a list of breaking code please share it. And did you know that if you write an application in VS-2008 with the target version set to 3.5 but use features that only appear in 2.0 like WinForms etc, it will run just fine on a machine that has only the .NET 2.0 runtime installed.

This is all explained in the posting. <g>
http://www.danielmoth.com/Blog/2007/06/net-framework-35.html

I have seen Microsoft's onion analogy, which isn't a bad idea. I just
think .Net 4 might be a really big onion, and I can't wait to see 5.x.

As features are added, the onion grows, how could it be otherwise?

I also wouldn't mind if Microsoft supported their own interop
technologies like unmanaged exports in C# to give me more me more
options, but they don't. Delphi does, though.

Can't say I've ever had ocassion to need such an option but I do notice you keep crowing about it. ;-)

I'm still not happy about Microsoft's decision to stop WinForms
development, and I actually would be surprised to hear that WPF is
slower than WinForms, but I can't dispute it. Certainly doesn't sound
promising for .Net on the client side. fortunately, VCL and VCL.Net
development is still going strong.

Again you keep saying how disappointed you are but why not tell me some of the new WinForm features you feel are absolutly critical keeping in mind that they will not change how WinForms writes to screen. As for some of the new features that are being added to .NET, LINQ and the ADO.NET Entity Framework, the Parallel Extensions to .NET Framework 3.5 and Silverlight 2.0 rank high in my book. Any idea when VCL.NET will support these new features. Yeah, I know, it will be sometime after they add support for the Compact Framework. <g>

Honestly, I wish Microsoft would spend more of its considerable
resources giving me what I need (and what they promise) and less time
trying to convince me that I need what they eventually decide to give
to me. These are some of the ways Microsoft keeps falling behind
companies like Borland and CodeGear (and Google, Apple, etc...) over
the past 10 years.

To be absolutely frank, I don't think Microsoft is even aware of what you want.<g>

If Borland had delivered on it's original promise of a new and better approach to .NET tools, then I would be using CodeGear tools rather than Microsoft tools for .NET. I just don't see CodeGear's tools ever filling my ..NET needs. Which is what I understand Brian to mean when he said, "...Delphi for .NET is not the optimal solution for .NET development."

These are some of the reasons I think keeping Delphi close at hand
helps me hedge my bets better than jumping entirely to Microsoft's
tools. I prefer to decide for myself when to adopt and abandon
technologies.

I know a place you can still buy buggy-whips...

Scotch? I thought for sure you'd be drinking Kool-Aid.

Let me know next time you are in town and I'll mix up a batch of my special Grape Kool-Aid just for you, <g>

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