Re: (Microsoft) The Future of Delphi?



Instead of thinking of splitting M$ why isn't CG developing other user related software like Office Suite, etc. using their tools and prove to the world that it is possible to developer really serious applications with their programming languages. This would also allow them to build another channel of income...

Borland tried to compete with Microsoft on that turf, and failed miserably.

Paradox vs.. Access, Visual dBase vs.. Visual FoxPro, Quattro Pro vs.. Excel.

They also had a licensing agreement with WordPerfect and marketed
Borland Office which was basically WordPerfect, Paradox, and
Quattro Pro packaged together (basically WordPerfect Office, Lol)
and it could not compete with Microsoft Office.

If you look back a few years M$ did not have all the tools that it has currently. They either brought them or developed them slowly & gradually and saw to it, that they are selling well in the market.... err... to an extent.

That's true, but...

Back in the DOS days Microsoft had compilers for every major/
mainstream programming language (BASIC, C, C++, FORTRAN, COBOL,
Pascal, etc.) and IIRC many of these were made later to support
Windows development.

They have got huge collection of software to the extent that if the whole world stops writing software for the Windows platform they can provide all the software that any person/corporate would ever need right out of the box..... Office Suit, RDBMS system, Development Tools, Web Server, Application Server, Data Sharing server, ERP systems, Accounting Systems, Office management systems, etc. etc.

Borland/CodeGear ha[s/d]:

Borland Application Server - There is/was also a Web Edition
Interbase, BlackFish
Delphi, Delphi for .NET, C++Builder, C#Builder, JBuilder
Full Stack of ALM tools (StarTeam, etc.)

Borland+CodeGear actually has everything a developer or organization
could need in that area, the problem is pricing and management.

I just mentioned the Office Applications they had which were crushed
in competition by the Microsoft applications. I highly doubt they would
be able to compete *efficiently* in the area of ERP/Accounting/Office
Management Systems, etc. seeing as how their current solutions are
pretty much "just getting by" (or not, in some cases).

Not only do they face fierce competition from commercial entities
(like Oracle, Microsoft, IBM, etc.), but there are open source alternative
which are cheaper and work just as well as many of their solutions.

What has CG or Borland done in this regards in all these years. Nothing except buying dieing companies and technologies like Aston Tate, Paradox, Framework, etc. And of course spending their efforts into building compilers and RAD systems for open source programming languages.

Some of those acquisitions gave them really good intellectual properties
that allowed them to make other products better. Just because a product
failed doesn't mean that the company as a whole didn't benefit from the
acquisition.

Why are they wasting their precious resources like this? One needs to have vision for all these and money will automatically flow in.

They make up for it by upping the price of Delphi, it seems. The price
barrier probably drove 20% (hypothetical, can be more or less) to Visual
Studio Standard/Professional Edition (even Visual Studio Express
Edition seems to enjoy lots of use by *gasp* professionals).

yes, one thing that they have done is release that shitty managed code embedded SQL Engine (just to prove to M$ that they are serious about .NET) which according to me has no market value.

I have no comment on BlackFish since I've never used it. Don't hear much
about it, though.

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