Re: Recommendation
From: Jean-Francois Nifenecker (no.spam_at_for.me)
Date: 05/30/04
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Date: 30 May 2004 01:16:09 -0700
Hannes Danzl[NDD] wrote:
> > While your 'thought' is indeed relevant. It also skirts the issue.
> >
> > It's mostly related to having a good idea and not being able to
> > afford the components necessary to bring it to fruition. While
> > everyone understands your example, not everyone has the buying
> > power of a corporation.
> >
> > And, to many, $450 US is a lot of money..
>
> I'm fully aware of this, John. Reason I mentioned it is that we
> actually get quite some mails that say that NexusDB is too expensive
> and even some that mean that they rather "create their own".
>
> > With Delphi slowly fading into the sunset (my opinion only), you
> > guys
>
> you might be not too wrong, at least for new projects. unfortunately.
> but lets not start a discussion about it here :)
>
> > might be well advised to allow a select few to work on spec. That
> > way, if their product is successful, not only do you get paid back
> > (and then some), but you can get some added brand recognition as
> > well.
>
> we are thinking a lot about something like this. we actually would
> like to offer a schema similar to rate-paying. Developers pay a small
> amount per month or quarter to get the minor updates and support
> until the retail price (plus some credit/handling fee) is paid off.
> another option we are thinking of is to give developers an almost
> complete source version for free, save of some base units which come
> in dcu. This way they can develop it their app. IF they ever sell it,
> they then buy the license and recompile with these last base files.
>
> The first mentioned option is unfortunately not really feasible due
> to high bank transfer rates and administrative issues. The second
> option we are still discussing. It's technically a possible.
> Administrative problems shouldn't occur either. The problem is that
> we are not sure about our intellectual property. After all we give
> away (almost) the complete source for free. Please also note that we
> have a possibility for non-profit organizations to get NexusDB for
> free.
>
> Said all this, i fully agree with you. It's not affordable for some
> developers to pay 450US$. Unfortunately our retail price of 900US$ is
> the price we need to set to ensure our business can exist (based on
> estimates of course), but and if anyone can come up with a suitable
> schema that allows us to provide a license to these developers too,
> we are VERY happy to look at it.
Hannes and John,
Sure the USD900 price is fairly high for single programmers (and for
many small size companies). I guess this is a catch 22: Nexus have to
set their product prices so they can stay in the business, their
customers have to be able to pay so they can stay on the edge. When one
fails, the other fail as well. This is not special to Nexus, that is
common to any market.
Let's see what's my own situation: I started programming on my own,
then wrote programs for my current employer (my apps are still on use
:) using FlashFiler1 then FF2. Now my apps are in the wild and don't
require much core programming. Thus, when I ask my boss for some money
to buy a component library (like NexusDB), he says: Is your app having
problems with the current library? -- No sir, works fine. -- So what?
-- Err...
Hence, my current situation has reversed back to some kind of an
"in-house-hobby-programmer" (???) who has to pay with his own pocket
money if/when he wants to get his hands on top-notch tools. And NexusDB
is one of those.
This is to say that the price of smthg has to be compared in a context:
NexusDB (and all of other commercial DB tools) are expensive to *my*
pocket in *my* context. But, given the overall quality of the product,
the commitment and responsiveness of the team, the roadmap they are
making public, for all these reasons (in order of importance):
1. I feel I have to be loyal to them
2. The tool will benefit to me and my devt skills
3. The Nexus Community is a great asset that helped me in numerous
occasions
4. My programs will benefit from NexusDB
For all these reasons, I'll happily (well... ;) give the money as soon
as I can to get NexusDB v2.
When people are really making money with their programs, they have to
balance the cost of in-house devt with the cost of purchasing a
ready-made tool. This is a tough decision, specially when talking DB
because the end user won't notice (well...) the difference on paper
between a shared file system and a true RDBMS. Apart from a seamingly
higher cost.
Just my 2 euro-cents, of course.
Regards,
-- -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux (EU)
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