Re: Mix of stuff....

From: J French (erewhon_at_nowhere.com)
Date: 08/08/04


Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2004 07:49:56 +0000 (UTC)

On Sat, 07 Aug 2004 13:26:41 -0400, not@any.adr wrote:

<nip>

>>Well, in some ways you are fortunate, you missed the 8086 digression
>>into Segments and Offsets - that was a convoluted mess
>
>Actually [grin], that's why I didn't go there.

You did not miss much

>When Victor came out with their own PC, just before IBM did I was working as a
>service coordinator and took a close look at the whole setup and decided right
>there I wasn't going to offer myself up as a programmer.
>
>http://www.old-computers.com/museum/computer.asp?st=1&c=210

That was a Chuck Peddle machine,
and was sold in the UK as the Sirius 1
I remember it well - variable speed Floppies

>I didn't get back into programming, except as a hobby, until a friend of mine
>came up with a 486 with win3.1 and asked me for a couple of small things. It
>kind of snowballed from there...

Win 3.1 must have been a nasty surprize

>>BTW have you looked at : www.masm.com
>
>That page keeps telling me I'm not allowed access.
>(lord knows why...)

Apologies - slightly wrong link

http://www.masm32.com

It is well worth downloading the stuff, some of it is pretty amusing
- but its not a joke

>>>I think (without knowing for sure) they had the bright idea about either a)
>>>creating an interesting toy or b) taking a run at microssoft ... neither of
>>>which is particularly viable in a commercial environment.
>>
>>Option b) would have been interesting
>
>Linux did it... with limited success. But let's not go there. What I know
>about linux would fit in a thimble.

Ditto - nobody has asked me for anything on Linux

<snip>

>About 16 months ago I downloaded freepascal as a way to get off the Modula
>platform (which I really hated). I immediately ran into a bunch of weirdness
>with windows exploding all over the screen... the frame would draw correctly
>in the upper left corner, the controls would be scattered all over the screen,
>and everything still worked! It was obvious that something was messing up a
>parameter block someplace so I looked around inside their "compiler" source
>and came across this "stabbing" activity. Beyond that I didn't investigate
>that aspect much further, I was looking for something else entirely.

I've seen you mention that to Marco - seems odd

>I never did figure out what was causing the problem and ended up spending
>$1300 (cdn) on Delphi7 only to discover I didn't like it much either.

>Finally a friend showed me how to subset it... to get the pascal out from
>underneath all that VCL stuff, and I've been off and going since.

Funny, I mainly use Delphi for writing DLLs
- I just make sure none of the VCL stuff is included in the Uses lists

For the odd GUI App that I do in Delphi, I don't mind so much, because
while it is weighty it is self contained

>So the upshot of this is that my investigation of FP was truncated by the need
>to get back to making working code.

Probably better to use a commercial platform, well something that is
not under development - unless one is very brave indeed

<snip>

>Yeah it was a pretty cool program... Qedit had a similar toy... you could load
>a TSR that would launch QE on a function key... but I never used it.

I still sometime press Ctl Shift - especially after I've been working
one of the old systems.

>>It was nice to run the code and make tweaks to the source at the same
>>time
>
>You'll love ConText then... it's a pretty decent little IDE.

<snip>

>>From there... enjoy.

Right, all that Textpad-ded to the desktop

I am going to have to be very careful keeping stuff separate.

Thanks



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