Re: A petition to J3 apropos FORTRAN's future

From: Richard Maine (nospam_at_see.signature)
Date: 03/22/04 

Date: 22 Mar 2004 09:38:36 -0800

analyst41@hotmail.com (analyst41) writes:

> ... but since Capitalism drives everything in the world,

and various other broad unsupported generalizations, ad hominem
attacks, plus a few obscenities thrown in just to make sure
that we can appropriately place the level of argument. Perhaps
he should have paid more attention to some of mother's admonitions
before labeling other people as childish, tired, quaint,
pathetic, and other such technical terms. But anyway...

Does this mean that it is capitalism that drives the near unanimous
rejection of analyst41's views? I guess it must be working. :-)
Actually, I seriously think that is the answer here. I have no
inherent objection to analyst41 going off with whatever support
he can garner and developing a langauge to suit his exact tastes,
whatever those may be.

Alas (for analyst41), there doesn't seem to be an adequate market
for his proposed product. Or if there is such a market, it appears
to have somehow been overlooked by those capitalists that might
want to take advantage of it. If you truly believed in the proposed
product and in the inherent virtues of capitalism, you'd be out
raising money to make your first million (I made mine quite a while
ago, thank you, just to let you know that you are indeed speaking
to a proper capitalist - I'd be most upset if the government came in
and took over the capital that I've built up). The story of your
sucess as a capitalist would be a lot more interesting reading
than the whines we get treated to instead.

Looks to me like the demonstrated market for standard Fortran is
infinitely larger than the demonstrated market for analyst4's
language. If there is a big unrealized market there, I'm quite
enough of a capitaist to knoww what to do about that. Your
opportunity waits.

In the meantime...

> C won the ultimate contest - it gets used. If we refuse to see that C
> did something right - then thats truly childish.

Seems like Fortran won the ultimate contest over your proposal;
Fortran gets used.

(I might add that the figures I've heard of suggest that the absolute
value of Fortran usage now is higher than it was in the 60's and 70's,
even though its market fraaction is lower. The market grew a lot in
areas outside of Fortran's primary strengths. But apparently some of
us would rather state "facts" that "everyone knows" instead of using
actual data. No, I don't have facts on that available either - the
vendors who do seemto consider it proprietary marketing data.) 

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Richard Maine                       |  Good judgment comes from experience;
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