Re: J3's workings


Jan Vorbrüggen wrote:

With regard to the committee not listening to users, you are basically saying
that Bob Corbett's colleague on the committee, or Steve Lionel's colleague,
are all just riding their hobby horses (with regard to Fortran) intead of
representing what they believe their customers - who are paying their bills
- want to have included. Sorry, I don't believe that as a group they are that
short-sighted.

My colleague on the Fortran committee J3 pointing this posting out
to me today. I'd missed it the first time around.

We don't hear nearly as much as we would like from Sun's Fortran
customers. We have a Fortran section on Sun's software developers'
forum on Sun's website, but the traffic is very light.

Even when we do hear from customers, the rest of the committee
rarely listens to us. For example, we repeatedly heard from our
customers that they wanted the style of preprocessing we provided
added to the Fortran standard. We made a proposal to the committee,
and made Sun's Fortran preprocessor available as open source.
J3 chose to specify preprocessing using a completely different
system. We have received no customer requests for the system the
committee specified.

Bob Corbett

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