Re: An Ametuer Who needs Advice

From: Albert Lee Mitchell (albmit_at_albert.amresearch.com)
Date: 12/31/03 

Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003 17:50:36 -0800

On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:36:31 +0000, Chris Hills wrote:

> In article <pan.2003.12.24.23.06.50.307995@albert.amresearch.com>,
> Albert Lee Mitchell <albmit@albert.amresearch.com> writes
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>>>>Basic,
>>> only by amateurs at home
>>
>> Correct me if I'm wrong but the original post this thread responds to is
>>by a self-professed amateur.
>
> So? That is no reason to use it. There are plenty of C tools and support
> available from the free to the very expensive. The point is that there
> is a LOT of support for C for all levels. There is no need to tie one
> self down to a less appropreate language just because some ametures use
> it..

        Yes, it is a reason unless you are pursuing your own agenda. The
gentleman originating this tread asked specifically for "amateur" help. C
is not for amateurs and arguably not for low-level embedded applications.
At least not with optimization turned on.

>> On most micros however there is no correlation between the number of
>>developers using Forth
>>and the number of embedded control projects in use.
>
> This is true. The amount of forth in use probably dwindles even more if
> you look ate the number of projects or indeed the number of installed
> devices.

        Dogma again. Forth is a well-hidden trade secret by most of my clients.
There is no way, again, that you can supply any meaningful statistics so
please discriminate between your opinion and reality.
 
> I have nothing against forth but an ammeter will get fat more help and
> support (and tools) on a far wider variety of micros and application
> types that he could from forth.

        Huh? No tool is better than it's user. Again, the number of products
has no correlation to it's quality. Hmmm, a pattern is emerging here.
Instead of pushing your agenda why not give cites and evidence and let the
reader and original poster decide?

-- Regards, Albert
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