Re: Using Visual C/C++ to do 8051 development

From: Albert Lee Mitchell (albmit_at_albert.amresearch.com)
Date: 02/08/04


Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2004 05:03:16 -0800

On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 07:30:08 +0000, Scott Moore wrote:
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>> Many good points but one overriding negative, the map is not the terrain.
>> No emulator and no simulator can ever precisely reproduce the hardware
>> response characteristics. This is why I, and many others, develop on the
>> exact hardware being produced.
>
> I used to believe that. Then I went to work on IC design. It turns out
> that simulators are MORE accurate than hardware. Why ? Heisenberg, as
> in "the uncertainty principle".

        No doubt simulators work fine in the lab but in the field or in real
world equipment I'd have to respectfully disagree.
 
> Another proof is simple. Many companies simulate against the actual
> verilog or VHDL used to create the chip(s) in use.

        Is a map of a map proof?
 
-- Regards, Albert
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