Re: what's a callback?

From: Frank Bemelman (f.bemelmanq_at_xs4all.invalid.nl)
Date: 12/23/04 

Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 22:53:28 +0100

"Anton Erasmus" <nobody@spam.prevent.net> schreef in bericht
news:1103802690.d16ba34b331eb6562ca740108e8bb67e@teranews...
> On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 15:10:08 +0100, "Frank Bemelman"
> <f.bemelmanq@xs4all.invalid.nl> wrote:
>
> >"Mike Monett" <no@spam.com> schreef in bericht
> >news:41C970D9.663A@spam.com...
> >>
> >> I think part of the reason for code bloat is programmers have no
> >> restrictions on their code size or performance requirements. They
> >> should be given 200MHz Pentium computers with an 8 gig hard drive
> >> and 64 megs of ram. That would fix slow, bloated code real fast.
> >
> >Windows isn't bloated at all. There's just a lot of things to be dealt
> >with, but that happens so incredibly transparent to the casual observer,
> >that we take it all for granted and assume the code is bloated or
something.
> >
>
> You obviously have never looked at the 1 Floppy demo from QNX.
> (Download from
> http://qnx.projektas.lt/qnxdemo/QNXDEMO_405_network.ZIP)

You obviously never looked at a typical Linux distribution that
comes on 4 CD's. Or what about 8 CD's and a DVD:
http://store.mandrakesoft.com/product_info.php?products_id=166&osCsid=7f8b48da611942205d5bf4553185534d

A complete WIN98SE installation directory is 109MB.

> One does NOT need hundreds of megabytes for a GUI based desktop
> userinterface. Also look at RiscOS 3.11 that was available on a

No, but it comes as hundreds of megabytes these days, because there
is little reason to squeeze it in less. What I remember from ~10 years
back is that windows 3.x came on a bunch of floppies. That were
perhaps 20 floppies or 30MB. Those were also the days that you really
ran out of memory or disk space, if you were careless. Today I don't
bother about it all. I save/keep everything, even emails that have
megabyte attachements. It is not that it is a lost art or something,
for instance PocketPC Windows doesn't take up that much space either.

My point is that the argument that Windows is 'bloated' doesn't hold.
I bet that there are more PIC's running (relative) bloated code than
PC's. Programmers at Microsoft aren't that stupid.

But I could be wrong about all that. My buggiest application is Protel.
It is full of bugs. That said, I find it a brilliant piece of software.

[snip]

> The expectation that one needs multi-megabyte applications, that has
> been created largely by Microsoft is actually holding things up these

I don't look at the size of an application to judge it's value. Who knows
what's in there, or wants to know.

> days. Todays hardware, with apps written a bit better would be
> unbelievably fast.

Yes, and nobody seems to be able to deliver. Have you tried open-office ?
Last time I checked, their spread*** was about 5 times slower than an
older version of Excel (2000).

But here is a great oppertunity for you. You only have to write it a
'bit' better. 

-- 
Thanks, Frank.
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