Re: PIC Development Help - compiler and IDE
- From: Neil Kurzman <nsk@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 03:22:58 GMT
Howard Henry Schlunder wrote:
> "js1180" <spastula@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:1129254708.6ff4ae6e3352ecfbdb3a17b35ff36f85@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >I am just starting to learn PIC programming. I have some experience with
> >Motorola processors so it's not brand new to me. I was wondering what C
> >compilers are best for PIC's, what are you guys using. I was also looking
> >for an IDE. I am especially interested in low cost products. I have the
> >PICKit 2 (USB interface) and the MP Labs IDE. Unfortunately I am having
> >some compatibility issues:
> >
> > 1) The MP Labs IDE does not support the PICKit 2. I have to code in the
> > IDE, then switch to the basic PIC programming to write the file. No
> > programming or debugging can be done with the IDE.
>
> You can use MPLAB SIM in the IDE to simulate your code. If you get into
> really complicated projects that require debugging in circuit with various
> peripherals running, you should buy the MPLAB ICD2, which will interface
> directly with MPLAB IDE. You'd then be able to program your PIC and debug
> real time without switching applications.
>
> > 2) The Pic lite compiler I have does not support the chip I am using -
> the
> > PIC16F690. Maybe the solution is to create a header file for the specific
> > chip. Maybe you know a site that has files like this.
>
> The HI-TECH PICC-Lite compiler was purposely crippled so it could be
> released for free. If you want a C compiler for that particular chip, you
> should buy the HI-TECH PICC compiler.
>
> Personally, I don't recommend that you program PIC16's in C. The PIC16
> architecture isn't optimized for C code. Hand written asm code will likely
> run faster and take less space. If you are bent on using C, I would
> recommend using a PIC18 part instead, which was designed with C in mind.
> (The PICKit 2 may not be able to program PIC18s yet) Also, if you used a
> PIC18 part, you could download and use the Microchip MPLAB C18 C compiler,
> which is a very good C compiler. The free version of C18 disables the
> procedurable abstraction optimization, which is of no consequence unless you
> are completely out of FLASM memory. Otherwise, the free version is
> uncrippled and supports all current and future PIC18s.
>
> Although I've never used PICC-Lite, my guess is that you would have to
> compile for one of the PICs that are supported in addition to modifying the
> header file.
>
> > I was surprised that the package I ordered did not have compatible
> > products, all the items were bundled together in a kit.
>
> The PICKit 2, true to it's name, is a starter kit. PICC-Lite is a 3rd party
> product, so it strikes me as reasonable that it does not support the
> PIC16F690, despite there being a copy of it on the CD. Also, the PICKit 2
> is very new. While it may not be supported in MPLAB IDE yet, full source
> code for the host application and the internal firmware is available, so one
> day it may be interfaceable directly to MPLAB.
I use Hi-Tech C on PIC16's the results are acceptable. Not Very cheap however.
.
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