Re: Embedded Software Engineers, needed in Seattle


CBFalconer wrote:
Brandon wrote:
John Devereux wrote:

The thing is there are already websites and newsgroups for job
hunting. Do we really want to add comp.arch.embedded to the mail
lists of the all the worlds recruitment agencies?

Yes, if it means more money for people who frequent here, and
more jobs for people who don't have one already.

I get tired of the complaints about bandwidth. This is not the
late 80s. We have bandwidth out the wazoo. The number of totally
irrelevant things posted in a newsgroup, even a newsgroup such as
this with a high signal:noise ratio, is astounding. Job posts
are not totally irrelevant, when they have something to do with
embedded programming. This one did. I say, quit bugging the
legitimate job posters. You might actually see better quality
job posts, if communities weren't in the habit of getting crusty
with every recruiter that comes their way.

To see how bad it can get, just monitor a few newsgroups with
'jobs' in their name for a few days. You will find them full of
repeated automatic postings, where every idiot head hunter tries to
get his post up as the most recent one.

Spammers aren't paying attention to anything anyone posts in response.
You aren't "nipping anything in the bud" by talking about it here. You
are just scaring off acutal human job recruiters, who could be an asset
to this community. With spammers, the semi-productive course is to
chase down their ISPs. But it's only semi-productive as they'll find
another one and it wastes your time. The path of least resistance is
to use a spam filter. You've been on Usenet a long time. You should
have learned by now that Usenet is an anarchy and you cannot control
people the way you'd like. Ceremonies of complaining don't change a
darned thing. Spam filters may not be "morally correct," but they do
work well enough to alleviate the problem, so people use them.

The transmission time for all this junk is not negligible,
especially on dial-up.

It is negligible on broadband. You are complaining about dialup. I'm
on a cell phone dialup myself. It has the virtue of being 3x faster
than a land line. I get about 15K/sec. I got 5K/sec with a 57.6K
modem.

Multitasking also helps. I've been reading docs on the desktop,
compiling in the background, and downloading something else since 1993.
When the big excitement was having a 14.4K modem, instead of driving a
few miles to the lab with a box of 30 floppies to round-robin my
downloads on empty PCs. People were just as verbose then as they are
now.

Synchronizing a newsgroup probably takes
about 1/4 sec per message. This adds up, and also requires local
storage. Meanwhile the wife and kids are complaining bitterly that
they can't gab with their best buddies, and causing retransmissions
by picking up the phone to check.

Then perhaps you need to learn how to schedule a cron job. Somehow I
think you know how to do it already and just haven't gotten around to
it. If you're not going to get a 2nd phone line, then it would be
kinder to your family to schedule your downloads for off-peak hours.

You could also use Google Groups as your newsreader. Then you don't
have to synch anything. You do lose functionality: no sigs and no
filters. Also you're online for the duration of your readings, so
depending on how important you think it is to read and respond to
newsgroup posts, it may be a wash.


Cheers,
Brandon Van Every

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