Re: So what is the difference between a software engineer and computer scientist?




Lewin A. R. Edwards wrote:

"[..]

Colin, my poor scientist-amongst-the-engineers, do you not realize
that this posting of yours (both the content, the lack of humor,"

My post was not very funny, but it was not totally void of humor ("A.I. my
arse" and the renaming a department to have "Science" in its title
without "Engineering" in order to avoid confusion that it is relevant
to engineering). Though perhaps that I have gone to such effort to
track these examples will amuse you.

" and
the lack of perception of humor from others) epitomize the "demi-
paedagogical" epithet that I applied to your class in an earlier
email?

[..]"

I confess I did not really detect this in your posting, but fair enough.

"While the subject matter is not exactly the same, I recommend this for
a good read: <http://www.apa.org/journals/features/psp7761121.pdf> -
the idea that if you're outside you can't see in, and if you're inside
your perception of the outside is skewed - is highly apposite."

At over ten pages, I have a doubt that I will read much of it so
perhaps I will never know whether you think I am arrogant but as for
some parts of the first page which I have noticed:
"[..]
Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own
Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments
Justin Kruger and David Dunning
Cornell University
People tend to hold overly favorable views of their abilities in many
social and intellectual domains. The
authors suggest that this overestimation occurs, in part, because
people who are unskilled in these
domains suffer a dual burden: Not only do these people reach erroneous
conclusions and make
unfortunate choices, but their incompetence robs them of the
metacognitive ability to realize it. [..]

It is one of the essential features of such incompetence that the
person
so afflicted is incapable of knowing that he is incompetent. To have
such knowledge would already be to remedy a good portion of the
offense. (Miller, 1993, p. 4)
[..]"

I can agree that one does not necessarily realize one's own problems
and I am optimistic. I have also noticed in others that a modicum of
knowledge of a topic can result in inappropiate obsession with
dominating the topic without ever realizing that still not enough has
been learnt about it. This could apply to me too. Something which
definitely applies to me is that many important things which are
needed for any project I work on I do not know, but that is fine: I do
not need to know everything: I work in multi-skilled teams. I have also noticed
people who are supposedly experts in something and who have no problem
of reminding me of this when we have conflicting ideas instead of
showing me empirical evidence that their claims are true.
.



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