Re: Ray Haddad and "Zen and the Art of Usenet"



Chris H wrote:
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Life is too short.
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Good observation - way to go.

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Chris H wrote:
In message <RZadnZUGg4Ap5FTa4p2dnAA@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, Guy Macon
<http@?.guymacon.com/.invalid> writes



Recently, Ray Haddad made the following claim:

"I wrote the section on posting in the earliest version
of Zen and the Art of Usenet. More than 25 years ago."

1983 ish?

Ray Haddad's oldest archived post is from 1994, which is
14 years ago, not 25.

He also makes a claim, supposedly backed up by this alleged
document, ("Top posting was the preferred method at the time"
that is factually wrong, as can be easily seen by looking at
random posts from that time in the archives.


Having been "on line" myself since 1983 (various BBS and Fido) and the
net itself since 1990 from my recollection of some 18 years top posting
has always been frowned on in Usenet. It was always interspersed or
bottom posting with sensible trimming. (Define "sensible" :-) This is to
keep context in the message as stand alone.

I note that recently Google has as a default no quoting when replying.
All we got was the reply and no context. Google has had to change this.
If Google has to fit in with Netiquet so should individuals.

What I do notice is that occasionally (more often these days) we get
some one turn up who says "I don't care what the generally accepted
rules of the club are" Ie Netiquet I am joining and you will treat me
politely eve though I will be "rude" to the rest of you by ignoring
convention and do it my way.

I recall this happened when AOL Users (known as Arse-holes On Line for
many years thereafter) arrived on the Internet. (They should never have
been let off the reservation that was AOL :-)

Why can not these people fit in with the community they are joining?
Generally it is because they are shallow and insecure people who need to
prove/win some point(s), generally obscure and meaningless to feel
superior.

Life is too short.

Just fit in with the accepted convention and lets discuss more
meaningful things like where to put the { } (style wise) in C and if
"AVR is better than PIC" :-))))))




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