Re: How workable is Vista?
- From: Joerg <notthisjoergsch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 12:47:52 -0700
Jim Granville wrote:
On Jun 16, 9:07 pm, Joerg <notthisjoerg...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
I have been looking to buy a new computer for a bit and I had just
about decided on a Windows XP based system from Dell. Today I called
them and found that not only are they not going to sell XP machines
after tomorrow, but the orders are flooding in! It seems pretty crazy
to me that if XP is still that popular, they would stop selling it.
Is this something mandated by MicroSoft?
Quote: "After June 18th you have the option to purchase Windows Vista
Business or Windows Vista Ultimate with a downgrade service to Windows
So it seems not all is lost.
But that means you have to pay for Vista *and* you have to pay for
XP. They call this *Vista Bonus*... talk about a marketing scheme!
Yep, seems they want to milk you for more money.
This in a news feed:
Seems the situation is 'fluid' with Microsoft trying to bully everyone
over to vista. (no surprise there). Of course, a large customer push-back, will have Microsoft's PR and Spin department into overdrive.
It also confirms that legally you can downgrade without having to pay
[The latest news comes from Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer, reacting to criticism at a recent news conference, who said "XP will hit an end-of-life. We have announced one. If customer feedback varies, we can always wake up smarter, but right now, we have a plan for end-of-life for new XP shipments."
As of now the June 30 deadline stands, but PC makers may be encouraging Microsoft to get "smarter" by taking the rare step of openly combating Microsoft's direction that vendors move from XP to Vista. HP, Dell, and Lenovo have all said they will downgrade operating systems on new machines from Vista to XP at customer request and will continue to do so until 2009 (specific ending dates vary).
Note that no one's breaking the law here. Legally, anyone with a volume license or an OEM license for Vista can downgrade to XP without having to pay extra for the OS. The only exception is for those who purchased "full packaged product (FPP)" editions, which do not include downgrade rights, though Windows Vista Professional and Ultimate editions do. Whether XP drivers are available is another issue.
If asked, many companies will include an XP disc with your order, but Dell is installing XP at the factory as well. Cnet also offers some additional helpful advice on obtaining XP if you're buying a Vista machine. ]
But from the statement on Dell's site it seems they only offer downgrade if you first "upgrade" to a more expensive version of Vista. Makes absolutely no sense to me and it could cost them revenue. One could almost bet it will cost them revenue.
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